B2K, B2K3, B2K4, GZ Timmy, Dragon Timmy, Viking, Adrenalin Angel, Matrix, Impulse, 03 Shocker, Angel Speed, EBlade Demon Cocker, EMag, etc...... If it is worth shooting I have shot it.
Bone Stock 2004 Freestyle
The Marker out of the box is ready to rip. Although the addition of a Chaos board will very likely increase the fire rate of the marker due to better trigger logic.
Light weight, low profile, high ROF's, cosmetically pleasing, break beam paint sensor not reflective
Occasional FSDO, roughy 1150-1350 shoots off a 68/45 fill.
Intial impression is good.
The pictures on the web really do it no justice. They look much better in person.
As someone stated above I wasnt real impressed with the drop either. A small problem I have is no screw in tanks!!! Everything I own is adjustable so I can going to have to replace the drop as well. ICD might want to look into offering the Freestyle without the drop for people such as myself.
After the outside inspection I called a buddy up to have him bring over his tank so we could play around with it. First impression was a little disappointing. I had somed leaks in the macro fittings and from the bolt assembly itself. It didnt take to long to fix these problems and also gave me a good reason to get some pics of the inside of the marker as well.
After reassembling the marker I noticed the trigger was very stiff. It was to the point that you could pull the trigger and not get it to come forward for the next shot. A little investigating revieled the gripframe screws to be at fault. Unlike the B2K's or BKO's the Freestyles frame can be split in half by removing four screws on the right side of the frame. This gives you access to all the electronics, trigger pivot point, micro switch, etc... Another nice note is the micro switch is now held in place by screws instead of roll pins.
With the marker put back together we decided to gas it up again and adjust the trigger until it was smooth as butter. The trigger has a very nice feel to it, in comparison to the B2K or BKO frame. I noticed little to no side play. The trigger feel much wider than that of the 2K3 frame. One item I did miss was the three selectable pivot points. The Fresstyles frame can be adjustable to two different pivot points but you have to open the frame up to do this.
With the trigger adjusted we started to dry fire the marker. Again we noticed a small problem. The bolt was not recocking all the way. After referring to the owners manual, which now comes on a CD, we determined the LPR to be set to low. After adjusting the LPR the marker started cycling very smoothly and extremely quick.
Enough with the dry firing lets get some paint in that baby!!!
I went through a complete hopper of Nitro Duck First Choice paint without a single chop, while using the PDS. The Freestyle had so little kick I didnt know what to think. I would try to compare it to a Matrix but I am not sure that does justice to the Freestyle. I found myself able to lay ball upon ball upon ball during rapid fire and never have to worry about the marker wanting to walk up. The faster I shot the more the Freestyle screamed for more. I will be taking it out to the field for practice on Sunday and we will see how it does then.
There are two things that I can see I want to upgrade in the near future. The first one as most people probably have guessed is the HPR. I hate regs with gas lines that come out the side instead of the bottom. This really isnt a major problem just more of a personal preferrence. I can report that the new style reg recharged extremely fast and was quite consistant. Over the chrono I was seeing + or - 3FPS. Not bad at all for a completely stock setup. The second item I would like to change is the electronics. The ICD board is quite fast but I would love to see what this baby can do with a Chaos in it.
For those that are looking to get a B2K4 with PDS and happen to wonder if the Freestyle is a good option for about twice the price I am still undecided. There are several advantages to the Freestyle and I am still weighing those out. For those that are looking to spend money on a Timmy, DM4, Angel, EMag, etc.... Make sure you take a very close look at the Freestyle. It has everything to offer that any other marker in this price range has as well as being one of the smallest profile markers I have ever seen.
Upon arrival the marker was meet with several people questioning what it was. People bow down and great your new god, I informed them. Most just laughed until they had a chance to check it out. It was quite funny to see them rip on a bone stock Style and say man that thing shoots as well as my___________________ <------insert any name marker there.
Armed with two Styles I had intentions of passing them around to get the feed back of several players. Before the first game was even started one of them was sold. After the end of the first game the other one was sold, so I myseld didnt get to do the actual testing. I am simply relaying the information that I recieved from both people that purchased them.
This was one of the first things I was wondering about when I order these markers from ICD. Without a firm number in hand I wasnt real sure what to expect so we conducted our own tests. These numbers arent exact but should give everyone a good idea of what to expect.
Both markers used a 68/45 tank. Both tanks were filled to 3000psi.
Marker A was running at 200psi with the LPR set just high enough to get the bolt to clear the breech. After a case of paint was put through the marker, not counting dry shoots, we then took our test. This marker shoot 287 before entering the field. It showed 3000psi on the tank gauge. The marker shoot 1 Halo, packed full, and 5 pods. This is approximately 900 shoots. One a full fill that would give us around 1350 shots from a 68/45. After leaving the field the Fill gauge showed 0 psi while the output gauge showed 300psi. The marker was then shoot over the chrono and read 285, 287, 287, 287 and 286. Not bad for a bone stock setup.
Marker B ran the same basic setup but required the LPR to be set a little higher due to tight fit of the bolt to the power tube tip. In turn the HPR was set slightly higher as well. It was around 210 PSI. This yield chrono reading of 289-292FPS. With the marker having a case of paint ran through it and the bottle refilled we found this marker to shoot 1 Halo full and four pods. This is approimately760. This would yield a total of 1145 shoots off of a full 68/45 fill. Marker B's fill gauge, on the tank, was reading 0PSI and output gauge was reading 200psi. It was shooting 260 fps when leaving the field.
Both players stated the marker shoot ball upon ball. Each made the comment that the marker seemed to have a little arch to its ball path that ressembled that of a Matrix.
One person made the comment, " If you want troubles pick anything but an ICD Marker!!!"
This marker is going to step ICD into the ring with the big boyes now. If you are looking at a high end a electro make sure to add this one to your list of markers to check out.
quote:Originally posted by smokie1992 Pretty much all the q's are answered I had on this marker except bps. Anyone know?
none of the stores say. When you said if you compared the freestyle to a trix it would not do the freestyle justice. What does that mean? Is it worse? You say it's shots per tank is a weakness but 1150-1350 is alot. (alot more than the trix shocker ect.) I want a new gun and I am stuck between the trix and freestyle and maybe an after market impy. My questions about the gun are; Does it have a LCD? Is the stock barrel good? Is the eye good? Do you know any good boards like the chaos or is it the best, and will the W.A.S. be compatible with the freestyle? Is it accurate? Once again i am looking for a good, fast, accurate, is this fast accurate and all around 1337?
WAIT, you got TWO freestyles? where are u i wanna shoot one. i fell inlove with my BKO, which i now compare to my friends shocker. (Mines better dont tell him!) lol. i am now looking at new icd products. is it really worth it or should i get a borg or a speed. if u didnt notice i h8 shockers lol. since u have two would u sell me one. i should really pm you, but im two lazy. and BTW i consider 1200 shots on a 68/3000 AMAZING, i get about 800-900 on my sickly BKO. and excaliburs get that much on the same tank, probbably less, like 1000.
quote:Originally posted by SuperBeaner Nerve is out, why not make that an option trev-dog3
The Nerve is a redesigned Impy. It also only has the 1 eye crap. Don't buy the Nerve, it's way overpriced. If your going to spend that much money then get a DM4, Borg, Angel, Vik, Excal, Timmy or the Freesyle.
crossfire 68/4500 fiberglass tank
halo b with rip drive and victory board
dye medium/large drop forward
tater chip(100% ramping) not used in tournaments....just for kicks....hehe
van you say 32 bps....hehe...HAHAHAHA can you see the look on the noobs face who calls himself out even though he is behind the bunker...the terror factor.
wat you can do is put a chaos chip in this which is wayyyy more than 25 bps as stated earlier
the cps of the gun is 40+ so i would assume you be able to shoot around there if u can even pull the trigger nearly as fast
there is a 15 bps cap in most tourneys now due to insurance and bonus ball reasons. but yea, its dang fast
but dont get this gun, i dont want competition :D
his review was great and shows the aspects of the freestyle
Good review. I would get the Freestyle over the DM4, way cheaper, smaller, lighter, just as fast, less kick, and quieter. The only thing better about the DM4 is probably the stock barrel; the Freestyle’s isn’t bad, just the Ultralite is better.
im about to buy this gun because its awesome lookin , i mean look at it its a beauty.
the stats on this gun are really good , it shoots fast, its accurate, and reliable and low pressure which is really good. im about to buy it for 550 bucks because my friend owns his own paintball store so he can get it for me for the wholesale price.
marker setup: a 2003 spyder imagine
break beam eyes
2004 14 inch all american barrel
check it sure fit clamping feedneck
my spyder is pretty cool and really fast cause it shoots 36 bps it you can pull the trigger that fast but i can only do 23bps right now. its a pretty good gun except the valve is damaged a little bit so it leaks but it still works.
dont ever buy a timmy they suck, some of the boards out there such as the predator board which is really fast , but if you put it in a timmy the gun will break after about a case of paint , so thats why im sayin you shouldnt buy one because if you try to get a good board thats even worth buyin then the timmy will break.
oh yah and dont get an impulse either cause they dont shoot that fast and their really outdated. i mean really
im buyin a freestyle , get it it cool!!!!!!!!!!
Last edited on Friday, February 25th, 2005 at 10:13 pm PST