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cskozlowski Friday, April 2nd, 2004
Period of
Product Use:
Less than a month9 of 10 people found this review helpful.

6 months
Products Used:
Stock ESP Trigger Frame, Piranha E-frame
Marker Setup: Spyder Victor, Freak Barrel System, CIP Regulator, CIP Assault Block, AKALMP Tornado Valve, CIP Delrin Bolt, ESP Electronic Trigger Frame, CIP Blade Trigger,Dye Grips, HPA (72 cu. in. @ 4500 psi), Evolution Hopper, 100g trigger switch
Strengths: Easy to install (w/o eyes) and low cost
Weaknesses: Eyes can be difficult to install. Should use HPA because of new marker cycle rates.
Review: Damon William ( has created quite an awesome product. As advertised, the T-board installs in under 5 minutes in your existing Kingman ESP frame. Comes with 2 page instruction sheet that makes it relatively easy to program sear dwell, eye debounce, trigger debounce using just the red LED as your guide. Even comes with a software mode to support eye alignment which is an excellent feature.

Eye Installation:

You better have at least a good drill press and some skill. Drilling into your Spyder body can permanently damage things if not done correctly. I used a drill bit that was 1/64" larger than the LED diameter. Location for the eye was selected to be at the low point of the barrel where a ball would drop from the vertical feed neck. I used a metal punch on the side of the barrel so the drill bit wouldn't wander all over the barrel. After drilling through the barrel, I deburred the inside of the barrel w/ 400 grit sandpaper on a wooden dowel rod because the drill bit does leave behind some metal shavings. I used a rubber washer at the base of each LED; otherwise, the LED will sit too far into the barrel and be obliterated by the bolt when fired. I secured each LED using eye covers made for an Intimidator (note: you will have to drill 2 additional holes to secure the eye covers). I did keep the stock ball detent in place, this means that I did have to do some milling to one of the eye covers to it wouldn't interfere with the stock ball detent.

The stock spring in the electronic trigger switch is way too strong (250g) and should be lightened down to 50-100g. I actually took the trigger switch apart and lightened the pull by shortening the travel of the trigger switch return spring (a very small internal spring in the trigger switch).

I could do 8 bps with the old ESP frame and I can now do 14-15 bps with the trigger modification and the T-board installed.

Conclusion: Excellent addition to any electronic Spyder owner that is looking to lay down more paint. Beware, the eyes are difficult to install and not for the meak.
9 out of 10Last edited on Friday, April 2nd, 2004 at 1:40 pm PST

Review Comments
LAX Wednesday, April 21st, 2004 | 11:18 am PST
Nice post. I also relized that the eye instilation was a very hard ordeal. Great explanation of how it is done.

trueindo Monday, April 26th, 2004 | 6:44 pm PST
damn thats a nice spyder

SpyderFenix Saturday, May 15th, 2004 | 9:43 pm PST
That would be a VERY sweet ass upgrade. it seems as though alot of people do not like the instalation of the eyes. Would you know if it would be difficult to do this to my Spyder Fenix?

andyvandenberg Sunday, May 23rd, 2004 | 4:33 pm PST
Where can i buy one of these?
andy vandenberg

SpyderFenix Monday, May 24th, 2004 | 2:46 pm PST
add me if you know
i REALLY want one!!!

puck2paint Wednesday, May 26th, 2004 | 6:42 am PST
me too,

Mister Paint Friday, September 3rd, 2004 | 12:38 pm PST
Me three. Where do you get these things? and who the heck makes them?!

prospeedballer Tuesday, October 5th, 2004 | 10:23 am PST
me to

Sam_the_spyder Tuesday, October 5th, 2004 | 3:16 pm PST
where did u buy it and does it come with the eyes

bugundertherug Tuesday, October 26th, 2004 | 5:37 pm PST
Buy them at for about 60 dolars w/o eye

.mista t. Sunday, November 28th, 2004 | 4:32 pm PST
are the eyes necessary for this to work

guns+me=fun Wednesday, December 8th, 2004 | 3:53 pm PST
no they are not neccesary but if your shotting like 20 bps without eyes iu can bet your probably going to chop a lot of balls if you dont get eyes for it, regardless of hopper

Pinoy Dragun Monday, December 13th, 2004 | 9:45 pm PST
its about $65 w/ eyes and u have 2 drill for them. there is also some modification required to the trigger frame, i believe, for the routing of the wires.

adhd8888 Friday, April 1st, 2005 | 6:38 am PST
yo, u said you've used the piranha e-frame. I have one, worked great until it broke, sent it in and pmi fixed it, but the spring inside the e-frame is is really stiff. is shortening the trigger switch a hard task to perform? Im kinda scared to take it apart.

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