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TheNightHawk Tuesday, April 13th, 2004
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I have also played with a friend's Piranha eForce. Not bad at all. Compared to the G3, its way better. My friend had to install a bottomline onto it, but I like the electric trigger on it. Compared to the G3 BL VF its much better, because its pretty much a G3 with electric trigger, Venturi bolt, and some more internal upgrades.
Marker Setup: I use a Piranha BL VF with a 20 ounce CO2 (PMI Pure Energy with a PMI Butt-plate on it), Venturi bolt, PMI Gravity fed hopper, 14" Jnj ceramic barrel and a JT nVader mask. Most of my stuff if for woods-ball.
I would reccomend you start off with a barrel. The stock barrel is Okay, but compared to the Jnj 14" Ceramic barrel I installed on mine, it fires much farther. Don't make the common mistake that a longer barrel is better because it shoots longer! Sure you can stick it through bunkers, but you can't play as tight to bunkers, and the longer barrel can cause more friction, use more air and actually decrease the performance of your marker, not increase.

Your next upgrade should be a bolt. Go for a Venturi bolt. It distributes air over the surface of the paintball more evenly, reducing breaks and chops.

Of course, if you really want to get a good rate of fire, you're going to need a fast-feeding hopper. A Revvy or Halo B is a good choice. I have never actually used an electric hopper because I don't shoot that fast that often. I'd much rather save my money. However, I do know players that can't play wihtout an electric hopper. Go for one of the above I reccomended. I reccomend the revvy over the HAlo. Who needs a hopper more expensive then your gun. Just get a 12v revvy and save up for a tank..

The last upgrades you'd want to get are for your air system. If you have an electric hopper, nice bolt and like to shoot a lot of paint in a short amount of time, HPA is for you. When you fire CO2 in a marker, every shot is going to be at a different velocity, unless you wait a while for the CO2 to expand, and refresh in between shots. Not a good thing. Also liquid CO2 can damage your internals, not to mention hinder your ability to shoot fast.

Compressed Air, HPA or N2 will do the trick. For the most part, its referred to as Nitrogen. Usually, fields will fill HPA tanks with Compressed air as opposed to Nitrogen. Air is basicly 78.1% nitrogen already, so using Pure N2 won't make much of a change. Nitrogen has a very low condensing temperature, so to get liquid N2, you'd have to cool it a lot. As for air, you'd also have to drop the temperature signifigantly to make it condense. So liquid isn't much of a problem with HPA. HPA is also more reliable. It is more consistant, so every shot you fire will be whatever PSI your regulator is set for. PMI Pure Energy is a popular brand of tanks, and I'd reccomend them.
Strengths: Quiet, good reliability, simpel design, cheap price.
Weaknesses: Needs regular maintanance. Bad stock barrel. Needs simple upgrades.
Review: I won't lie. Its a pretty basic marker. It doesn't come with much, but for the price you pay for it, its about right.

I am the kind of guy who takes care of his marker and has pictures of real guns all over his room. I pull out two cloth diapers after every game, strip the marker completely to its bones, wash them off (in water if the paint is really in there good) and re-oil and reassemble my marker. I do it twice a week if I'm not playing and I do it the night before and usually after games. The Night before I just oil up the bolt assembly.

The stock barrel isn't that good, but it will shoot. I just got my JnJ Ceramic 14" Barrel (PMI markers take Spyder threaded barrels) and have only played with it once. I have noticed a significant change in my performance, but thats not to say I didn't have fun playing with the stock barrel.

I have only had one double feed, and it was because I double cocked my marker (That is, uncocking it, and cocking it again, putting two rounds in the chamber.

It did break down on me once, but I just needed a new tank O-ring. Luckily a cool kid was there to give me one of his. Thanks M8!

Conclusion: Let's sum up what we have gone over:

-Stock barrel needs upgrading
-Bolt needs upgrading
-For faster shooting, get an electric trigger and electric hopper
-For consistency and overall better accuracy (but remember, the gun only shoots as good as the player plays), get HPA
-Needs regular maintenance

I hope you choose the G3 marker. Its great. Spyders are very similar to Piranha's. Some people consider Piranha's "clones" of spyders, hence the name Spyder Clone.

Some other things to consider is paint-barrel match (every barrel and style of paint has a different size (example: .685, .687 )
8 out of 10Last edited on Thursday, June 3rd, 2004 at 12:26 pm PST

Review Comments
TheNightHawk Tuesday, April 13th, 2004 | 12:26 pm PST
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snausages Thursday, September 29th, 2005 | 7:32 pm PST
just so you know, pirahna's came before spyders

TheNightHawk Tuesday, February 14th, 2006 | 1:35 pm PST
Originally posted by angel 4 life
let me come off real straight you're an idiot

why in the hell would you need a
HALO on a crap gun like this
I would put my angel on a bet that everyone on your field would look at you like an idiot if you played with a HALO
i also bet you can't out shoot a VL 200 or come close to doing it
just stick 20 oz cuz you won't be going more than 5bps
you are a true newbie.

Dude, think before you type. Do your parents let you talk like that?

First of all, I'm fully aware that a revvy is more then enough for a mech piranha. When I wrote this review, I wrote it for new players. I've been playing paintball for years.

If a new player buys a halo, and a half decent compressed air tank, sure it will look funny on their piranha. When the time comes for them to upgrade to a higher end marker, they'll have a halo and a nice tank to slap on, spreading out the cost.

Also notice I reccomended the revvy over the halo as a hopper more expensive then your marker is ludacris.

I'm not an idiot, and I dont hide behind a computer screen to insult people, so even if I showed up at a field with a cheap gun with a halo, they wouldnt laugh at me.

Also, I'll accept your bet. If your a man of your word (by the way you conduct yourself on pbreview, I'd guess that your not), you'll owe me an Angel.

I bet you I can push 8-10 on a mech piranha.

Furthermore, a fast feeding hopper ensures the paintballs will feed consistantly. I might have to shake a VL200 for a second. With a self-agitating/force fed hopper, theres always(usually) going to be a ball completely in the chamber.

I dont know if you know this, but if a paintball feeds half way into the breech and you attempt to fire, you'll break it in half. Its called chopping.


Kindness Monday, July 31st, 2006 | 12:38 pm PST
Angle 4 life has a valid point even if he doesn't know how to present it without a sense of ignorance. If that is your plan to have it ready for future use then you should tell them. This marker is considered to be for the new players and when they see all these things they need for an upgrade they may decide to not join the sport. But it is a good review not that I understand your logic. I was wondering why someone who seemed so knowledgeable was putting some confusing things.

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