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Reddfox Tuesday, May 11th, 2004
Period of
Product Use:
Less than a month147 of 153 people found this review helpful.

Paintball
Experience:
6 months
Similar
Products Used:
Electronic trigger on '03 Mongoose
Electronic trigger on '04 Mongoose
Tippmann 98 Custom E-grip trigger system (or whatever name it goes by)
Marker Setup: (Tactical) Tippy A5 with:
Flatline barrel
Response Trigger
32 Degrees expansion chamber
remote line w/ line check
24oz CO2 canister on modified 32 Degrees harness
DOP power chamber & front bolt
Folding stock w/RVA

(Speedball) '03 Mongoose with:
Stock E-trigger
32 Degrees expansion chamber
32 Degrees Whisper barrel
Empire sound activated hopper
Strengths: Higher rate of fire
Perfect timing for the marker
Superb control
Weaknesses: Does it have any? Maybe if you don't know how to turn a screwdriver.....
Review: To be fair, I'll get my only concern out of the way first. The RT is an add-on gas line that connects to a piston set just behind the trigger. The exterior gas line really looks like it's just asking to get ripped off the side of the marker when you're running for cover and through brush. That said, it's yet to happen to me in several full days worth of dense forest play.... probably because I remain aware of it and keep my A5 in close when I'm moving. Plus, for those of you who may have seen the RT setup and are wondering: It's not as easy as it looks to pull the gas lines off of their housings. I also picked up some aftermarket replacement hose for it, and it's pretty tough stuff.

One more thing to get oot the way: WHINERS. What??? This is hard to set right? Only if you've never even shot a Daisy BB gun in your life. Being raised in a world of high quality shotguns, pistols, and the occasional AR-15, I'm used to constant and predictable trigger pulls. THE RESPONSE TRIGGER DELIVERS. With a sensitive trigger finger and 100 balls of paint, you can properly calibrate the RT and let it take you to paintball bliss (and your opponents to paintball heaven :-)

As for Rates Of Fire, I believe that the A5 is perfectly comfortable pumping out 15 bps. The RT setup lets you utilize that ability far better than even a double trigger setup, as most people can't crank out more than 9 or 10, especially since the A5 has a sear trigger. (I only average 8 or so when using the 'Goose with it's double E-trigger while I'm "fanning" my middle finger with a curved wrist and straight hand.) Even for those superhuman speed-demons who can reach the elusive double digit BPS by hand, the RT simply saves fatigue in those really hairy melees and lets you worry about what matters... tactics. One more thing about the ROF for the Response: I've found it fully adjustable and comfortable to crank out anywhere from 13 bps down to 4 bps leaving of course, the ability to shoot purely semi-auto if you wish.

How does the RT stand up to the E-Grips? Pretty well. I like the fact that the RT is tied directly to the timing of the marker, creating a perfectly functioning machine that works in unison to dump tons of paint on the opposition. E-triggers by their nature "tell" the marker what to do instead of working with the natural timing created when the bolt vents excess gas after firing. This is mostly only a problem if the E-trigger is trying to work at a ROF above what the marker is able to provide, or if there's a malfuntion in the operation of the bolt assembly. In a good marker, it's rare at worst. However, that still creates one more variable that I personally don't want to worry about, as I have heard of E-triggers running slightly amok. .....then there's the issue of batteries. Oh wait. There ain't no "battery issues" here. Being gas operated, the RT lets A5 users have a VERY fast marker with no batteries in any place on the marker to worry about.

Another thing that bears stating: Gas consumption. With the addition of the RT to my A5, there was only a negligable drop in the number of shots I was able to get out of a tank. To put it into perspective, there are some barrels that will cost you much more gas than that! (Flatline, anyone?) My answer? A 24oz cylinder strapped to my harness. Why? Because it's an A5, already a certifiable gas hog..... but we love 'em anyway
Conclusion: 1) Read responsible reviews for all viable products to help you decide what's MORE right for you: Stock, RT or E-grip
2) If you like precision timed machines that are dependable and don't need batteries, GET A RESPONSE TRIGGER. Save your batteries for other toys.
3) If anyone reading this has the ear of Tippmann, ask them to outfit the next gen of RT gas lines with armored covers that can mount to the side of the marker casing. That's the ONLY reason I'm not rating this a 10. That said, I'll have to give it a very high....
Rating:
9 out of 10Last edited on Tuesday, May 11th, 2004 at 4:48 pm PST
 

Review Comments
Thourne Thursday, May 20th, 2004 | 10:19 am PST
Great review - I really like how thorough you are.
   

prowlernj666 Tuesday, June 8th, 2004 | 9:24 pm PST
i use my nail to turn the screw that adjusts the rof :P
   

Reddfox Friday, June 11th, 2004 | 9:04 am PST
LOL good for you, prolwernj666
   

ilikebunkers Friday, December 17th, 2004 | 4:42 pm PST
awsome review,
Now I want to buy one. Does anybody know any good upgrades for a spyder pilot acs besides a new barrel? List them please. Thanks!
   

Bpie03 Saturday, January 29th, 2005 | 10:30 pm PST
A flatline doesnt use up more gas how could a barrel use up more gas? That has been said too many times
   

mbrown2 Monday, May 23rd, 2005 | 1:12 pm PST
Only if you've never even shot a Daisy BB gun in your life........

I sure haven't, but I like the review anyway
Last edited on Monday, May 23rd, 2005 at 1:13 pm PST
   

Tippmann ace Tuesday, July 12th, 2005 | 12:54 am PST
barrels can mess up your gass consumtion because.....
the longer the barrel the more gas required to send it out about 12 inches is ideal
and more venting means that the gas isnt pushing on the ball as it leaves the barrel
making the ball take some wierd curves. hope that answers it lol
   

cagg Tuesday, October 4th, 2005 | 2:58 pm PST
great review (-:
   

badgerfriend22 Saturday, December 31st, 2005 | 6:39 pm PST
do u recomend a resp trigger? i want to get 1 but i dont no
   

badgerfriend22 Saturday, December 31st, 2005 | 6:40 pm PST
do u recomend a resp trigger? i want to get 1 but i dont no
   

jordysham06 Friday, June 30th, 2006 | 10:23 pm PST
re: do u recomend a resp trigger? i want to get 1 but i dont no.
Even though i dont have a tippmann A-5. I bought a A-5 Response Trigger kit for my BT-4 Assault recently. Honestly it's the bang for the buck to get your gun full-auto (poor mans auto) lol. I have had no problems with RT what so ever so far. It has worked great for me and has performed awsome. The reason i bought the RT because it does not require any batteries and it's weather proof. The only thing i'd recomend if you get an RT is that you should upgrade to Air (HPA). I found that if you shoot full auto all the time with C02 is you end up freezing up your whole gun ahhaha. If you set your RT right u should do any where from 4-15BPS for your gun. All in all it's a great upgrade
   

Tippy King Tuesday, April 17th, 2007 | 4:15 pm PST
quote:
Originally posted by badgerfriend22
do u recomend a resp trigger? i want to get 1 but i dont no
yes the responce trigger wont let you down
   

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