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alien8 Tuesday, June 1st, 2004
Period of
Product Use:
Less than a month10 of 14 people found this review helpful.

Paintball
Experience:
3 months
Similar
Products Used:
Tippmann Custom 98, Pro-Carbine. Both fine, reliable markers, but do not perform as well as the TL-X in stock form.
Marker Setup: Kingman Spyder TL-X
Smart Parts All American Barrel, 14 inch
Palmers Stabilizer Regulator
Empire Reload Hopper
Vaporworks High Rise Feedneck
32 Degrees Spring Kit
20oz CO2
Both PMI Premium and Diablo Midnight paintballs shot very well.
Recommended
Upgrades:
Agitated hopper (Empire reloader or 12V revy), then barrel. After that, whatever does it for you.
Strengths: Fairly accurate with stock barrel, simple, reliable, excellent price, looks great.
Weaknesses: Again, for the price, none.
Review: This is an excellent beginner's marker. It's fairly light and appears to be well constructed. It actually shoots very well straight out of the box. The stock barrel, with the proper paint match ( I used PMI Premiums), is pretty accurate, and I didn't haven't had any breaks in the barrel. I did chop one ball with the bolt (out of about 1000 shots), but that's because I outshot my gravity hopper, which of course isn't all that challenging to do. Like any blowback marker, cleaning was quick and easy. Paint in the barrel and breach did affect accuracy and precision to the point where you could only hit targets relatively close on a consistent basis (say, about 30-50 feet).

The trigger pull is nice (for stock). It's a little long for my taste, and not adjustable, but there is relatively little side-to-side slack, and almost no back-slack after the striker is released, so I've been able to shoot fairly quickly with no problem, but I'll need an agitated hopper to see how fast it will really go. When I get one, I'll update this review.

I've disassembled the entire marker to determine which parts may need to be replaced if I decided to set up the marker for low pressure (LP). The expansion chamber entry and exit appear to be large enough to accomodate high flow, but I'd replace it with a regulator anyway. The vertical adapter has approximately 3/16" holes, so it looks like it will perform ok with regard to high flow. Of course I'll have to replace the stock valve assembly, and finding a bolt that will take the top cocking mechanism will be difficult, so I'll probably just modify it myself (for excellent advice on this, see Otter SC Customs, http://www.ottersccustoms.com/spyder.html).

## UPDATE ##
I've played a few times with the new barrel, hopper and regulator, and as you would expect, the marker shoots MUCH better now. Both accuracy and precision have improved dramatically. I've put more than a case of 2,000 paintballs through the gun, and had not one break (peak rate of fire approx. 5-6 bps). If I can see my target and it's within a reasonable distance, I can hit it in 3 shots (my aim isn't so hot). I'm still running the marker at relatively high pressure, about 500 psi, but between the slightly lower pressure and heavily ported barrel, it's much quieter now. Efficiency hasn't improved much yet, probably getting about 1200+ shots per 20oz CO2 tank, but that will probably change when I replace the valve system and continue to lower the operating pressure. If I can make this marker run any more efficiently, I'll update this review.
Conclusion: This is an excellent, reliable and fairly inexpensive beginners marker that performs well right out of the box. With the proper barrel and agitated hopper, it performs very well. Top-cocking is nice, you don't have a beavertail sticking out the back, so you can put the back of the marker right up to your mask and aim down the side. For the money, it's a 10.
Rating:
10 out of 10Last edited on Monday, June 28th, 2004 at 4:59 pm PST
 

Review Comments
sonnemann Tuesday, June 1st, 2004 | 11:48 am PST
You could try modding an aftermarket Spyder bolt for top cocking, or...
...you could always try to use a Timmy bolt...hehe

nice review.
   

benman3187 Wednesday, September 1st, 2004 | 5:44 pm PST
I had already bought this gun when I read your review, but if i hadn't this probobly would have convinced me. Good job.
   

Team Slaughter Sunday, October 17th, 2004 | 4:30 pm PST
Everyones reviews have conviced me! Also, I ordered mine about two weeks ago with a package, it hasn't even started to be delivered! It's, "Pending drop ship".
   

Team Slaughter Friday, October 29th, 2004 | 4:37 pm PST
NEVER EVER order from PB Fanatics.
   

spencerTLXblu Sunday, December 26th, 2004 | 9:13 am PST
order from Action Village
   

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