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Lord Hobo Thursday, July 15th, 2004
Period of
Product Use:
1 year50 of 55 people found this review helpful.

Paintball
Experience:
2 years
Similar
Products Used:
Stock 'Cocker Barrel, Dye Ultralite, Dye eXcel
Marker Setup: Tippmann 98 Custom, SP All American 14", SP Teardrop 12", 32* universal drop forward, Red Dye 3 stickys, custom red to black fade paintjob.
Recommended
Paintballs:
Almost any, this barrel isnt Paint picky
Strengths: Very good accuracy
Quiet as a mouse
Choice of fronts
Weaknesses: None
Review: This barrel is heads and tails above other barrels of the same price range. It's quiet, very accurate, and cool fronts. Another great thing about this barrel, is that it isn't paint picky. I had done some tests against a Dye Ultralite my friend has, so know you will see the results.

Accuracy
The All American
Remember, these are done from a 98 custom, so they might be different on different markers.
First, we started with the target, a pieve of ply wood, at 50 feet. The target was 12" by 12". with single shot, on co2, i noted that no balls missed, and 4 of the 15 shots fired where right on top of each other. We were shotting all stars by the way. We then moved the target to 65 feet, with the 12" by 12", and all 15 shots hit, with about a 6" grouping. After that done and recored, we started to burst fire, with 5 rounds a string. One missed out of 15, with a slightly larger grouping. So far so good.

The Ultralite
Same thing, started the target at 50 feet, 12" square. 15 out of 15 balls hit the target,. Next, we moved the target out to 65 feet. shotting all stars still, we noticed about an 8" grouping, no misses. Slightly larger than the all american, but not by much. Next the strings of 5. During the second string, a ball broke in the barrel. This greatly affected accuracy, making the last string ineffective. All together, not counting the broken ball, 4 out of 15 missed the target. This isn't too much worse, but still, those four could of been an elimination missed.

Paint Type
ZAPs from Wal Mart

All American
We started with a full hopper, and shot all two hundred at about 5 balls per second. Not a ball broke. This paint is very cheap by standards, but proved it wasn't that bad.

Ultralite
Again, a full 200, about 5 balls per second. After about 100 balls fired, a ball broke. This wasn't great, as accuracy was effected. Near the end, within the last 20 balls, another broke.
2 broken balls for the ultralite, 0 for the all american.

Moving up to All Stars.

All American
Again, 200 balls, about 5 balls per second. The barrel again did not break a ball, but maintained about a 8" grouping at 60 feet witha continuous string of paint.

Ultralite
Same thing. No balls were broken, but some minor irregularity were in the paint caused them to fly in different directions. But no balls were broken.
Ultralite: 0, All American: 0

We were finished, and had seen enough. We had concluded, that although both were great barreled, and both very accurate, the Ultralites pickiness of cheap paint was its downfall. Get an unltralite only if you plan on geting top of the line paint all the time. Get an All american if you plan on playing with any paint.
Conclusion: All American. It has too much going for it, and is very good. It accepts all paint, unlike other barrels of the same price. Well worth it.
Rating:
10 out of 10
 

Review Comments
~Jayger~ Thursday, August 4th, 2005 | 10:21 pm PST
Awesome review
Im gettin a AA barrel tip with a freak kit for a sweet deal
Hope its as good as u make it sounds :P
   

paintballer667 Saturday, November 26th, 2005 | 4:01 pm PST
Great review nice comparison to the ultralight.
   

tessa_101 Wednesday, March 1st, 2006 | 8:30 pm PST
i got a AA with freak front 16inch........for my c98 so i hope its as good as you sed it is
   

jack_empire Saturday, May 27th, 2006 | 10:20 am PST
good review but 5 bps? :S
   

BeNice2Noobs Sunday, June 11th, 2006 | 12:52 pm PST
Hey, great review! It is so nice to read a review where someone does what you did (or something similar) and then writes a review on it. Thanks!
   

spyderpilotuser Sunday, December 23rd, 2007 | 6:18 pm PST
why do you blame the barrel for breaks??? maybe the paint just sucked and of course any barrel is gonna lose accuracy after a break so give dye a chance!!! the all-american is not the best in the world!!!!if you want true performance go out and buy a dye titanium barrel and front.thats great there.
   

musicmixer10 Monday, June 30th, 2008 | 8:17 am PST
Yo does an all american barrel have the same threads for a vibe?
   

Where'sMeShoota Sunday, October 12th, 2008 | 8:53 pm PST
Hmmm. You may be comparing apples to oranges here, buddy. Considering that both of these barrels are made in numerous bore sizes, do you think it might be possible the Ultralite and All American you tested together are different bore sizes from each other? Did you ever stop to think that maybe the Ultralite is only breaking more paint because it's bore might be smaller than the AA's? Because if it is, then of course the UL is going to be pickier over paint than the AA. . . pickier over larger, cheaper paint, in particular.

There's my 2 cents. . . Go buy yourself sumthin nice.
   

shenkyei rambo Saturday, January 3rd, 2009 | 9:09 pm PST
how quiet is this barrel, or what would eb the quietest barrel available for an autococker
   

Where'sMeShoota Sunday, January 4th, 2009 | 2:51 pm PST
The AA is just as noticably loud as every other barrel I've ever used... boomstick, ceramic, dye stainless, ultralite. They're all the same, imo. Regarding noise reduction, the barrel brand is not as much of a factor as is the barrel's length, but the difference it makes is still hardly noticable. When shooting an Automag, only about 1 db of sound is eliminated for every 2 inches of barrel.

Below is an unbiased source supporting my statement.

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=2218018

To make your autococker quieter, there's not a whole lot you can do. My opinion? Save your money. As long as your barrel fits your paint and you're happy with how it looks, you're good. Don't feed into the endless barrel hype like the rest of the herd. Aftermarket paintball barrels are the most successful gimmick on the planet, generating more unfounded claims, myths and amazing tall tales of performance than any other aspect in paintball gear, which is saying a lot.

Unless you find an awesome deal on ebay, spend your cash on something that will do more. Don't be a sucker.
Last edited on Sunday, January 4th, 2009 at 3:02 pm PST
   

shenkyei rambo Monday, January 5th, 2009 | 1:42 pm PST
hey shoota where di you get your name? just curious, no insults intended, but did you think of it using WH 40K? if so i am also part of that
   

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