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Greedy Tuesday, July 20th, 2004
Period of
Product Use:
Less than a month17 of 17 people found this review helpful.

Paintball
Experience:
1 year
Similar
Products Used:
MP5 Sliding Stock (www.extremesportsandhobbies.com)
Marker Setup: Tippmann A-5
Tippmann Flatline Barrel
J & J 45 Aluminum Grip Frame w/Blade Trigger
Paintball Pins "The Skulls" Killer Grip and Insert
WGP 70/4500 Pre-set HPA Tank *Stubby*
Palmer's Male Stabilizer w/Guage (Black)
Dead on Vertical Adapter (Black)
CP Razor Drop
Check-It Product Uni-Mount
Custom Folding Stock
Sling Mod
Strengths: -Durable
-High Quality
-Sturdy (no wobble)
-Folds OVER the marker as well
-"Clamps" on marker*
Weaknesses: -Weight (1-2LBS)
-Lose quick strip
-Won't fold under (review).
-"Clamps" on marker*
Review: First off it's not that long, don't worry (3-5 mins reading tops). Secondly, you can buy it from:
www.englerpaintballguns.com or email Eric Engler (maker) at: ericdengler@att.net

I've always wanted something different, something no one else had (at least not in my area) so I was browsing around and came across this stock. I'm not the type to go for that militia look, so that aspect of it wasn't really what I was going for. I previously had the MP5 folding stock, which I found to be nothing but problems and ordered this one with the refund I received.

Ok so now about the stock. "It has the ability for fold under the marker," Well that's not true at all, sorry Eric Engler. The reason why you can't fold it under is because the Air Tank will get in the way, plus EVEN if you do take of your bottle you'll have to take off the elbow as well since the stock can't clear that either (see picture) UNLESS you have your elbow running vertical, like it is when bought stock. If the elbow sticks out left or right of the ASA then it won't fold. So it's main selling point of being able to fold "under" your marker isn't true. Can't be done. But, being the genius I am, I've found a very simple way around it. The stock folds under the marker as simply as it folds over. So when you don't want to use it fold it up (you just squeeze two buttons to fold it up and down), it will stick up a bit funny and/or hit the hopper but it's out of the way and your able to get more compact.

The stock also is a bit different than the ones we're accustomed to. Instead of replacing the blow back plate it clamps over it. Furthermore, you have to replace the quick strip pins with screws that are not quick strip (another way I found around this was just going to the local hardware store and using wing nuts instead). So you can't take of the grip or the back plate without tools. As a side-note the stock isn't all black and it's not one color. The actual stock part (The part that folds up and down) is powder coated matte black, slightly lighter and a little browner than the stock color. The folding mechanism and the clamps that attach the stock to the marker is a pewter color. Its not ugly at all, just different, wouldn't have stopped me from buying it.

"As for the color of the mount, it is Parkerizing. A process that is uded on real guns."
-Eric Engler

Pictures of the stock as labeled:
Copy/Paste the 1st line then the 2nd line (one after another NO SPACES) in the address bar

Stock Itself on Marker
http://img11.photobucket.com/albums/v35/dr1707/Paintball/A-5
/New%20A-5%20Pics/CAM_0308.jpg

Side of Stock
http://img11.photobucket.com/albums/v35/dr1707/Paintball/A-5
/New%20A-5%20Pics/1a.jpg

Folded Under
http://img11.photobucket.com/albums/v35/dr1707/Paintball/A-5
/New%20A-5%20Pics/7a.jpg

*Folding Under Problem*
http://img11.photobucket.com/albums/v35/dr1707/Paintball/A-5
/New%20A-5%20Pics/CAM_0316.jpg

Folded Over
http://img11.photobucket.com/albums/v35/dr1707/Paintball/A-5
/New%20A-5%20Pics/5a.jpg

Sideview on A-5
http://img11.photobucket.com/albums/v35/dr1707/Paintball/A-5
/New%20A-5%20Pics/6a.jpg

Shooter's View (right side)
http://img11.photobucket.com/albums/v35/dr1707/Paintball/A-5
/New%20A-5%20Pics/3a.jpg

Shooter's View (left side)
http://img11.photobucket.com/albums/v35/dr1707/Paintball/A-5
/New%20A-5%20Pics/4a.jpg

Underside-Rearview of Folding Mechanism
http://img11.photobucket.com/albums/v35/dr1707/Paintball/A-5
/New%20A-5%20Pics/CAM_0314.jpg

Good View of Folding Mechanism
http://img11.photobucket.com/albums/v35/dr1707/Paintball/A-5
/New%20A-5%20Pics/CAM_0310.jpg
Conclusion: All in all it's a good stock, I can hold my entire marker horizontal by grasping the end of stock (which swivels) and have no wobble at all. MP5 stock couldn't do that *snap*.

Although it does have some minor flaws, with some very easy mods, it can be made ideal. It goes on an A-5 so lets be reasonable, we A-5 owners love to do mods.
Rating:
9 out of 10Last edited on Wednesday, July 21st, 2004 at 10:05 am PST
 

Review Comments
$peedStick Tuesday, December 7th, 2004 | 8:29 pm PST
One of the best reviews I've seen!!!
   

peter piper Friday, January 14th, 2005 | 2:43 pm PST
I am pretty sure you work for that company.
But nice review
Last edited on Friday, January 14th, 2005 at 2:44 pm PST
   

Tommy K! Sunday, October 30th, 2005 | 2:51 am PST
Where did you get your J & J 45 Aluminum Grip?
   

asianpursuasion Thursday, June 22nd, 2006 | 4:06 pm PST
....looks like an AD to me...
   

mjr_paranoid Saturday, December 16th, 2006 | 5:54 pm PST
Good review.

All the scenario players that I know that use a-5s run remotes directly off the tombstone, so I would venture a guess that most scenaio players do this.
I do this myself since it takes a huge weight off the marker. So for the majority, this would be a folding stock.
   

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