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NoHands Monday, August 30th, 2004
Period of
Product Use:
3 months50 of 50 people found this review helpful.

Paintball
Experience:
More than 5 years
Similar
Products Used:
None
Marker Setup: Spyder Pilot - stock
Black Delta 68 - stock spring replaced with shocktech heavy spring(red)
Silver Delta 68 - stock spring replaced with shocktech heavy spring(red)
Recommended
Upgrades:
None
Strengths: Quick change co2
Good weight/balance
Simple sturdy design, easy to take apart and reassemble
Weaknesses: Susceptible to dirt, especially the ball clip
Review: I bought 2 delta 68's after coming to the conclusion that these would be "fun" in a indoor/close combat or urban scenario and I must say that they didn't disappoint.
After reading practically all the reviews on this forum I decided to buy the delta 68. The Zeus was tempting but ultimately price was the deciding factor, about 40$ less. From what I could gather the problems that I would encounter were low velocity and co2 leakage. I've used them for a few months now through 2 scenario/woods weekends and quite a few target practice sessions (translates into about 500 paintballs and 20 co2 cartridges each) and I'm happy to report that I haven't had any of these problems other than once which I'll elaborate later. Keep in mind that the serial #'s were in the low 12000's for one and high 12000's for the other. It is possible that they resolved the problems that people mentioned before.
After I received my pistols the first thing I did was on one of my pistols I replaced spring with a heavy spring from a shocktech kit for spyder guns and kept the other one stock. After that I took a trip to my local paintball field to get them chronoed. Surprisingly on max settings both of them shot about the same speed. They averaged around 275 fps. The numbers fluctuated from 260 to a high of 295 on the pistol with the STOCK spring. The pistol with the shocktech spring gave around the same numbers I don't remember the high. Yes the shots are not as consistent as I would like but hey, what do you expect with this setup (no expansion chamber or regulator). I was using Diablo midnight balls that in my opinion were a fraction too small for the barrel. The balls would roll right through the barrel with a little encouragement, they also did the same with the stock barrel for my Spyder pilot. I believe that if I was using paintballs that matched well with the barrel I could achieve over 300 fps, which is well over the 280 fps limit on most fields mind you. In the end I replaced the stock springs with the shocktech springs because they have seemed to have stopped the slight friction you would get when you cocked the gun. The shocktech springs had a slightly larger diameter than the stock spring so I believed the friction was caused when the spring rubbed against the spring guide. I have no idea how one of the reviewers got TWO springs in there. I'm surprised that the gun didn't explode in his hands.
As for the problem of leakage it happened to me only once recently and it was quick and simple to fix. It happened at the end of a day of scenario paintball. When I replaced the co2 cartridge on one of my guns it leaked and emptied itself in about 20 seconds. I tried with another cartridge and it did the same thing. Since it was the end of the day I left it alone and checked it out when I got home. At home I compared the area where the pin punctures the co2 on both of my pistols and discovered that the o-ring was missing on the one that leaked. The gun came with a "parts kit" that included these little o-rings, about 7mm in diameter, that until then I didn't know where they went. I put in the o-ring and voila! Like new again.
After playing with both my spyder pilot and the 2 pistols I ended up preferring using the 2 pistols all the time. The good outweighed the bad. The bad is that it only holds 12 shots, 10 in the clip + 1 in the breech + 1 in the barrel, and the c02 lasts for around 25 shots. But you can offset the negative with a "backup" pistol (Yes I brought 2 pistols with John Woo fantasies in my head). In the end I use 1 pistol at a time and take out the second one when I'm reloading or when stuck in a firefight, but we shouldn't be getting in to those with pistols right ;). The good is that it you are more maneuverable because it's lighter and less bulkier that a normal marker. If you have a holster you can have both hands free. A pistol offers a much smaller profile than normal so you're harder to hit and since the balls are force fed you can shoot from any angle (+ no ball chops). Accuracy is good taking into account the velocity spikes. Hitting a fire hydrant at 50 feet with no wind isn't a problem. One last problem with the gun is that is sensitive to dirt, especially sand. I put one on my guns down in the sand while I was reloading the other one and sand got in to the clip and jammed up the plunger that pushes the balls in to the gun. It was easy to take apart and clean but it isn't something you can do during a game. The breech is open to the air so I can see that dirt can get in to that area too but that hasn't happened to me so far.

Addendum:
During a target practice session I noticed that I'm getting around 32 shots per co2 cartridge (vs 25 at first). Don't know if this is due to the new springs or possibly the pistol "breaking in". Temperature was more or less the same as the other times and I was using the same brand of co2 (crosman). Pleasant surprise.
Conclusion: In the end if you can adapt your game to compensate for the weaknesses of pistols in general then I see no reason why you shouldn't go pick up a delta 68. Haven't had any of the headaches that I've read on this forum expect once which was easy to fix. If you want more info or pics on how I fixed my leakage problem leave a comment with your e-mail and I'll get back to you.
Rating:
9 out of 10Last edited on Friday, September 3rd, 2004 at 8:45 am PST
 

Review Comments
tommikka Sunday, November 7th, 2004 | 10:00 am PST
Nice review, I have a stock Delta 68 and have just picked up the CO2 leak. Would be great if you can email more details - tom@oaklandsfestival.co.uk
   

commanderbeck Saturday, November 27th, 2004 | 12:10 pm PST
Hey, great review. I have, just like tommikka, a stock Delta 68 and have also just gotten the CO2 leak. My email is commanderbeck@comcast.net
Thanks in advance,
-_- Beck
   

tommikka Monday, November 29th, 2004 | 3:29 am PST
Thanks to 'nohands' who supplied me with the photos, replacing the O ring is as simple as it appears that it should be.

Hold the Delta upside down, look inside the cannister port and inside the silver 'Valve front cap' is the little O ring.

If you have the right size screwdriver (It won't be in any standard toolkit) and a hex key to remove the front CO2 clamp you can take out the 'Valve front cap' and the ring will be easier to get at.

Note: You could unscrew the valve with a screwdriver in one side of it but you risk slipping and doing damage. It really needs a screwdriver with a wide head to fit the whole valve.


I replaced my O ring just fine, but yesterday got a leak again. (Entirely my own fault this time)

The first time I just had a slow leak and was able to fire, appeared to be at the same pressure but obviously with less capacity.

This time was out on the field, I put my pistol out in the gun port wthout gas, so on the way out picked it up and loaded the gas whilst walking through the woods and inserted it badly causing the cannister to leak and freezing the O Ring.

(I was carrying Bone Daddy BL and the Delta as a side arm)

So I decided to let my self get knocked out early by going out gung ho and getting blasted away, thus giving myselef plenty time to get back and replace the ring.

I could do this de-masked in the safe area, but was trying to set a good example of discipline to the kids, an worked on it masked up in the gun port it was fiddly to do as though I have kept my spare rings inside the pistol grip and had my hex key for the grip I only had a little safety pin. So after a few minutes fiddling and making a real mess of the old ring I got it out and the new one popped in just fine.



Then I was all ready later in the day in the fort in the front tower when the back got overrun. Time was nearly up, paint going everywhere around me and my hopper getting low so its lie on my back, out with the pistol and marvel at the accuracy from 'point and shoot'.
   

tommikka Wednesday, December 8th, 2004 | 12:18 pm PST
Update on Delta 68 - A better manual can be downloaded from:
http://www.paintballsolutions.com/pdf_manuals.asp
   

TrustShot Thursday, January 13th, 2005 | 5:40 pm PST
NoHands, I want you to e-mail me about the Delta 68's. My e-mail is IUnconventionalI@aol.com
   

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