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brihard Sunday, December 19th, 2004
Period of
Product Use:
3 months30 of 31 people found this review helpful.

1 year
Products Used:
Numerous actual firearms
Tank buttplates
Naked tanks
Marker Setup: Tippmann M98C
Flatline barrel system
Carbine stock
Remote coil lne
Red dot sight
Strengths: Stabilizes your aim significantly
Retractible- Can be tucked away for movement
Visually appealing
Weaknesses: Can be difficult to tighten sufficiently
Difficult to use sights
Review: First off, I'll mention that I'm already biased towards the use of a stock on a weapon. I'm an infantryman in the military, so every firearm I've used has had one. Though I've not used weapons with retracting stocks, the principles remain the same. Also, keep in mind that I'm thoroughly a woodsballer.


The key to the entire stock issue is that it will stabilize your aim significantly. If you keep it in your shoulder while playing AND while moving, you'll find yourself increasingly able to raise the marker for accurate snap shooting. It tightens up your groups when shooting at longer range, and makes adjustment of your shots a lot more predictable if you miss.

The stock is very versatile. Because it has multiple locked positions, you'll quickly find a stock-extended setting that is comfortable for you to use. The general rule of thumb for finding a good stock, is hold the pistol grip, and fit the stock snugly in the crook of your elbow- That tends to help you instinctively find a comfortable length for when you've opened the stock to settle down and start picking your shots.

conversely, when you're moving, it takes only an instant to close it up to the shortest length and bring it into your shoulder like a true carbine. This is useful for moving through tighter areas, and for close quarters fighting. It also brings the center of gravity closer your your body, making it a bit more controllable while you're on the move, or simply in a hurry. Using the sights with the stock closed can bea bit more difficulty however, as your eyes work best when a certain distance from the sights. Nonetheless, it's still better than nothing.

Also importantly, the stock is built solid. The bar is aluminum, and the stock is high impact plastic. The plastic lever to unlock the stock for movement (Spring loaded, by the way- you just clench it to adjust and let go to lock it) is also solid. I've not had any parts break with this piece of kit, and I give it hard use. It's built to last.

Finally, and not to be neglected, is it just looks damn good with a proper marker setup. The intimidation value from using this kind of gear isn't to be discounted- I've had people retreated from engagements in which they had tactical superiority just because they recognized that they were up against me, and they knew I had good gear. IT's saved me a few hits that I might otherwise have taken, and turned a few games around. There's also a bit of pride in using a good looking marker.


I found one small problem when I installed it, and that was the locking ring that holds it in place. Tightening it was a royal pain in the ass. There's no grooves or notches to accommodate a wrench or anything. Your best bet is to get one of those rubber strap thingies that you use to open really right jars. Failing that, wear rubber gloves and just wrench on it. Otherwise the stock tends to rotate a bit- but not significantly.

The other problem is for those who have sights mounted on their marker. With the stock on and in use, your eyes will be about and inch and a half above where you can comfortably use sights. This is mitigated on my marker by the flatline barrel shroud, which adds an inch of height, but for any other setup you'll need some kind of raised sight rail, such as the M16 sight rail, or whatnot. Something like a red-dot sight will usually add half an inch to an inch of height to your sight profile as well. Experiment when adding sights to see what works. Lapco has some raised sight gear that works with the 98, and other third parties have tons of different parts as well.
Conclusion: I strongly recommend this product for those of you who enjoy milsim or woodsball. Even if you're a speedballer, it can be beneficial, though I won't try to pass myself off as a speedball expert.

It might take a bit of time to get familiar and comfortable with a stock, but generally it's fairly instinctive, and you'll appreciate the payoff. The price can be a bit much, but worth it. Give the product some consideration.
9 out of 10

Review Comments
Happy Face : ) Friday, June 24th, 2005 | 1:31 pm PST
haha i bet you look really scary with your stock. good review it helpped

t dub Thursday, March 19th, 2009 | 2:57 pm PST
ya i cant get my stock to stay put it rotates its very annoing can u tell me in a very detailed way how to fix this problem it would be very helpful

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