Piranha SRT, Smart Parts All American barrel, compressed air tank, clamping feed neck, Spyder Shutter, Phantom VSC, Piranha LB, PMI-1
Compressed air, barrel
Solid design, fast rate of fire, easy to maintain
Weak feed neck threads on stock neck.
Out of the box, the gun has a very nice finish. Mine is the green fade to pewter to black. The anno is smooth as glass. I didn't even bother with the stock barrel, first thing I did was swap it out. I also added a Lapco drop forward so I could use a low pressure output 91ci 4500psi compressed air tank. I let the gun charge up over night.
First time in use, the gun worked great. The funky trigger is extremely easy to shot fast without even trying. I personally don't sit around trying to walk a trigger, but its nice that the gun can fire fast on command. You can find the sweetspot and let the recoil do most of the work for you with a little practice. The rubber grip is comfortable. Out of the box, the gun chronoed at 280 on compressed air. I had one ball break, but after cleaning it out and checking in the feed neck, it wasn't a chop, it was a barrel break, so you can't blame the gun for that. There were two times that the bolt failed to recock. Possibly this was just the gun breaking itself in, or the bolt caught a ball halfway and stopped instead of chopping. If thats the case, I'll take a recock over a chop anyday. at the end of the day, my friend gave me some left over paint that he had bought from the sporting goods store. The brand is unknown, but it was a OD green shell with a purple fill. Pretty cheap stuff. I loaded up a hopper and hit the target range to play with the burst and full auto settings since I didn't use them on the field. The Full auto was a blast. I emptied a hopper with no chops. I should also ad that my hopper is a pre BE revy with a warped sports paddle, and was plenty fast enough to feed the FA setting. Sure some people can fire faster on semi that it can on full auto, who cares? Its fast enough.
Break down is simple and efficient. The sear drop switch makes reassembly a breeze. the internal parts are very well machined, and everything is smooth.
One thing I would like to point out that I like about the gun, it that the body is totally enclosed. There aren't any openings in the side of the gun that would allow paint and trash to get inside the gun, unlike my Spyder Shutter. Since I play scenario games, I view that as a plus on any gun. The rear cocking lever is spring loaded and doesn't fly back. There aren't any moving parts on the outside of the gun.
When I got home and went to clean the gun, I noticed that the feed neck was loose. As I went to tighten it, it fell out. The threads on the feed neck had stripped out. I went and added an extreme rage clamping feed neck. I'm not happy that the stock neck broke after the first use, but the clamping neck seems to be built better.
*UPDATE* Ok, had the gun for around amonth, and I've been able to play with it twice. So far, I've had the feed neck strip out and I had to replace it with a not so cheap clamping neck that is shorter. Now, the gun chops paint because the balls aren't stacked as much as they were with the stock feed neck. I refuse to go out and buy a $80 force feed loader for this thing. Next,I had the velocity drop to around 200, and I could not get it to go up for anything. I bought one of PMIs piranha/spyder spring kits, but they were too long and caused the gun to bind and malfunction. The gun didn't come with any other springs, but I was able to get some at the local shop, costing me even more money for the useless spring kit and the correct springs. My guess is I just got screwed with a lemon. Eitherway, I have no choice but to lower my original score even more. My first impressions with the gun were positive, but it has proven to be unreliable over a very short period of time.
Not a bad gun if you don't get a lemon, but I would also look at others, such as tippmanns or spyders.
5 out of 10
Last edited on Sunday, January 23rd, 2005 at 3:41 pm PST
No, I don't think that a 7 is low, and the feed neck stripping out is not a small problem. It had to pay $35 for a clamping feedneck to replace it. My general rating system is that I will tell the good and the bad, and rate it accordingly. It is very rare that I will give a 10. The only thing I can think of is the Flurry Vest that earned a 10. The Piranha is a great gun, as I feel I reflected in my review. I love it, but I did have a problem with mine, rare as that maybe. For the record, PMI's wonderful customer service called me back first thing Monday morning after I had left a message for them over the weekend. They are sending a replacement stock neck in case I ever sell the gun and want to keep the clamping neck. They have fantastic customer service.
Well, your second problem after your update says that you were chopping balls. Yet, you don't want to put down money to get a hopper to keep up with the BPS. A grav fed hopper will get you about 8 BPS max, where as numerous cheap loaders, Rico 2K, Empire Reloader, can get 10-12 BPS for about 30 bucks now. Don't blame the gun because you are unwilling to do to it what needs to be done.
It's like saying I refuse to get a elec hopper for a DM5 and then complaining it chops because you didn't get a new hopper for it.
You bought a hopper that costs about the same as the gun, good for you. I don't go walking the trigger, so I'm not out running the hopper. My gun was just out and out crap. If yours works, then great. Glad you got a good one.
I do believe that you could have a lemon...PMI does do that sometimes since they let china make their guns....It is also possible that you are not giving the gun (or the company) a fair chance.
1. your feed neck stripped...Maybe ur fault, maybe not....contacting PMI should have been your first step so they could replace it (as it appears they did) and you didn't have to spend money on a new one. Problem reported and fixed...sounds like a reason for a high mark, not a low one.
2. Short feedneck causing chopping. First this should be mute point since had you called PMI right away you would be using the stock one the whole time. But lets play devils advocate and say you wanted to run out and get a short, clamping feedneck. You say you don't shoot fast enough for a high speed hopper, but if you are chopping with the short stack, you ARE outshooting the hopper...Period. The longer feedneck was helping to prevent it, but with the short one you don't have that protection. So what I am seeing here is that you are marking an electronic gun down for shooting too fast? I can help you with that...I have an old school single trigger mech frame that I would be happy to trade with you...I promise you won't need to spend any money on a faster hopper... :D