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PaintballNasty1 Wednesday, December 29th, 2004
The accuracy of this review is disputed. Please see discussion below.
Period of
Product Use:
6 months29 of 205 people found this review helpful.

Paintball
Experience:
More than 5 years
Similar
Products Used:
maybe a brass eagle talon haha but seriously one of those budget sheridan pumps which are reliable but suck for everything else unless you enjoy having your gun sound like a cannon and feel like a cannon to shoot
Marker Setup: Tippmann 98 custom
>phsyco ballistics drop forward
>double trigger
>12v revy
>dye boomstick
>crossfire nitro tank
Recommended
Upgrades:
NEW GUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if you're a begginner get the new pirahna gun evo 2004 its mad quick, mad cheap, no chop because of eye, perfect in comparison with a tippmann just stock
Strengths: >Strong trust me it takes a beating.
>Consistent to a certain extent
Weaknesses: >Chops.
>Balls spin when firing quick.
>Heavy
>Stock tank placement
>Feels newb
>Slow shooting
>Versatile
Review: Pros- the gun can withstand some beatings and is consistent at low speeds

Cons- its such a newb gun in almost every aspect and can just be a pain to have with you when you want to be playing but you're worrying about not being able to keep up with the other quality guns. definutely a scenario and gun that you'd only use when you were with friends- at a course you'll feel like a newbie to paintball, inferior, and helpless
Conclusion: DoN't get it- save your money and you'll be pleased quicker
Rating:
1 out of 10
 

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7dust82 Friday, February 25th, 2005 | 8:46 am PST
Maybe you guys shouldn't be comparing $400 electronic markers vs. $150 blowback gun. Wait I've got it... Why don't all the people that voted for Tippmanns face off against all the people that voted for the EVO and have a paintball match using the guns you voted for to determine which one is better instead of just sitting there and b****ing about it!!
   

smartpartsuck Saturday, March 5th, 2005 | 3:02 pm PST
the tippmann is better because it is very cheap, very upgradeable, very reliable, very accurate, and a very good gun. i dont know about you, but i dont need 2000 paintballs just to waste on trying to get one person out, cause it does not matter how fast it shoots, all that matters is accuracy. If you can shoot a can from 50ft away with a tipp, that is good, and you used one paintball to mark someone out. With higher end guns, you cant compare them, no electros, maybe you could compare it a to somee electronic sear tripper, but no full out electro.

well, i am happy with my tippmann, and i am buying another one (because i like it so much) ,besides buying a 400$ gun that will snap in half.
   

wickedlester Monday, March 7th, 2005 | 6:46 pm PST
quote:
Originally posted by lobsterboy360
Ok heres the thing...98 customs are only better than evo's if you smash one against a tree. People ahve to come to grips that speedball players and speedball guns will wreck woodsball players on their own turf. They just move better and the guns are jsut as accurate and have the same range un less you put a flatline on the 98, which would just kill the accuracy and make the extra range useless. And let's all admit that snipers are the most useless people in paintball. Anyone who says an upgraded 98 will outdo an evo in woodsball is horribly mistaken. The fact is that the 98 its a very long gun and is very hard to move around quickly. That alone makes it a horrible speedball gun. Also, it is much slower than the evo, and we all know about hoe speed is a big plus in speedball. I want to here how all you people who are advocating the 98 think it is better than the evo. I'll start by saying how the evo is better.
1. It has eyes to prevent any chopping.
2. It's electronic and can shoot faster than the tippmann
3. It's smaller, lighter, and more compact
4. It's much easier to clean and maintain
5. It has a verticle feed which feeds faster than the stupid 98 bent neck thing
6. It has a reg stock so it's more consistent. which results in greater shot to shot accuracy.
Now I want to hear how the 98 is better and I want facts, not myths (it doesn't shoot farther, because all paintball guns shoot the same distance when set to the same velocity. )


Everything you said here is true except for the distance. TIPPMANNS shoot farther then other markeres without the flatline. Its the bolt set up.
   

fuerer325 Wednesday, March 9th, 2005 | 2:54 pm PST
oh my gosh i am going to jump in here--- tippy fans think there gun is so good. i crack up just thinking about it. that guy that made the list is dead on, it's funny how no tippy guy has responded to him. look when tippy owners say the guns are ment for woodsball because they are accurate! HA that is the biggest farse. they stink and they aren't the best woodsball guns MAGS are gosh why do i have to keep saying this.
   

headshot101 Wednesday, March 9th, 2005 | 4:46 pm PST
oh my gosh i am going to jump in here--- tippy fans think there gun is so good. i crack up just thinking about it. that guy that made the list is dead on, it's funny how no tippy guy has responded to him. look when tippy owners say the guns are ment for woodsball because they are accurate! HA that is the biggest farse. they stink and they aren't the best woodsball guns MAGS are gosh why do i have to keep saying this.

TIPPMANNS ARE DEFINATELY THE BEST WOODSBALL GUN FOR THE MONEY. PERIOD. I'm not saying they are the best speedball gun because thats a whole different story. Tippmanns are good for woodsball because they are sooooo durable, really cheap, and they are easy to maintain. Also, you can upgrade them into custom snipers (like mine), speedball guns, scenerio guns, you name it. But if you took a stock tippmann to a speedball field against an electro gun, the tippmann would probably lose just because its not as fast and the barrel is pretty trashy, but unfortunately, those are crucial things for speedball.
   

Sporefrog Thursday, March 10th, 2005 | 11:27 am PST
quote:
Everything you said here is true except for the distance. TIPPMANNS shoot farther then other markeres without the flatline. Its the bolt set up.


You are an idiot. Do you need me to explain some physics for you? Distance has four factors:
Gravity
Air friction
Velocity
Angle of shot

Since a 98 custom doesn’t have an anti-gravity or anti-friction device it’s the same for all guns. The angle of shot doesn’t matter because all guns can be pointed higher. So the only factor left is velocity. Most fields have a maximum velocity of around 300 FPS (Feet per second). So even if the 98 custom can shoot a paintball at a higher speed than another gun it doesn’t matter because almost all guns can shoot at least 300 FPS.

quote:
TIPPMANNS ARE DEFINATELY THE BEST WOODSBALL GUN FOR THE MONEY. PERIOD. I'm not saying they are the best speedball gun because thats a whole different story. Tippmanns are good for woodsball because they are sooooo durable, really cheap, and they are easy to maintain. Also, you can upgrade them into custom snipers (like mine), speedball guns, scenerio guns, you name it. But if you took a stock tippmann to a speedball field against an electro gun, the tippmann would probably lose just because its not as fast and the barrel is pretty trashy, but unfortunately, those are crucial things for speedball.


What makes a gun better for woodsball and not for speedball? You think you don’t play rough and dirty in speedball? I have a Freestyle its really easy to clean and maintain because there is only one moving part, and its completely covered by the body. The 98 Customs bolt assembly is open to the out side air, so any dirt, paint, paint shells or anything can get in there. That’s not very durable to me. The 98 custom is not really that easy to maintain. It works on basically the same design as a spyder. The both have a hammer that is attached to the bolt and the hammer is tripped by the sear. It’s the same except for how the parts are placed. Its way easier to disassemble a Spyder because all you have to do is take out one pin and you can get all of the internals out of the gun to clean. On a 98 custom you have to take out all those screws and take one of those shells off.

More upgrades for a Tippmann than a spyder? No way. There are maybe 5 upgrades that actually affect performance on a Tippmann. The rest is stuff like slings, scopes and other crap that you don’t need. You say you have a 98 custom sniper, let me guess at what your set up is:
98 custom-$150
Flatline barrel-$120
Sight Rail-$40
Stock-$60
Sling-$30

So you paid $400 for some stupid “sniper” 98 custom. You could have gotten a Freestyle.

And another thing, if you think there are such things as “snipers” in paintball you’re mistaken. Sitting in the back of the field and shooting people out from back there in not sniping. It’s called a back player.

quote:
the tippmann is better because it is very cheap, very upgradeable, very reliable, very accurate, and a very good gun. i dont know about you, but i dont need 2000 paintballs just to waste on trying to get one person out, cause it does not matter how fast it shoots, all that matters is accuracy. If you can shoot a can from 50ft away with a tipp, that is good, and you used one paintball to mark someone out. With higher end guns, you cant compare them, no electros, maybe you could compare it a to somee electronic sear tripper, but no full out electro.

well, i am happy with my tippmann, and i am buying another one (because i like it so much) ,besides buying a 400$ gun that will snap in half.


How can you say that the tippmann is accurate? Do you know what makes something accurate. Paint-to-bore match and consistency. The paint to bore is just the barrel and the 98 has no regulators so its not very consistent. So I don’t know how you say its more accurate than another gun.

You obviously know nothing about Speedball. There is this thing called laneing. While doing this you are usually at the back of the field. So if you were to wait to shoot until you saw the person run by your lane by the time you reacted and the ball got there he would already be safe. That’s why you shoot so much.

There is also this other tactic called pinching. Lets say at the beginning of the game my team decides that the 50 Dorito is probably a key bunker on the field. So if someone gets to that bunker your team has two people at different angles on the bunker shoot loads of paintballs at his bunker. This makes sure that that player can’t pop out to get any of your players out, will have to be in a tight position, and will probably make a mistake and get hit by one of those balls.

What you woodsballers don’t understand is the importance one player has in speedball. In a 5v5 every player counts so if you have to shoot 100 balls at someone to get them out its worth it if you get the win.
Last edited on Thursday, March 10th, 2005 at 11:27 am PST
   

warrenworier Thursday, March 10th, 2005 | 12:56 pm PST
ok fuerer325 i bet ou any money ill beat your @$$ at woodsball with my STOCK tippmann98 u probily never even played REAL woodsball how bout you go out find some freinds and play instead of sitting at home shooting trees in your back yard. You make ME laugh!
   

fuerer325 Thursday, March 10th, 2005 | 12:57 pm PST
sporfrog is 100% correct-------and first off that guy that said tippmanns are the best woodsball guns you're a moron. i would love to play you with my mag team. and besides the mag- do you guys think speedball guns can't play in the woods. i mean sporfrog's freestyle would light you up----- anyway you woodsballers out there obviously know nothing about speedball (i can say this cause my mag team are a usual woodsball team but play speedball turnies too) i'll be honest our first game we got our butts handed to us on a silver plater-- we were second to last, in a tourney that a 03 shocker was the cheapest gun, i look at the rosters-- after the tourney we thought that they had no skill and that we could beat them at our own turf. so we went to a woodsball tourney again at Chicago. and most of the teams had electros. we placed 4th out of 16 teams, and the four losest teams were all tippmann based as a side note ; ). anyway we soon realized even the electros could play woodsball. so anyway Tippmanns stink at everything
   

warrenworier Thursday, March 10th, 2005 | 1:05 pm PST
sporfrog are you retarded i paly sinper sometimes its when your in full cammo, you lay in brush weeds and wait for someine to come buy, shoot the crap out of them and find another spot. The term CAMPER is used also.
   

wickedlester Thursday, March 10th, 2005 | 3:03 pm PST
Sporefrog,
Your "four factors of distance" does have something to do with how far the paint will go, but it also depends on the bolt. Every bolt is different, so every distance will be different. Even at the same velocity, a TIPPMANN will shoot farther then most markers. They were made to shoot farther rather then shoot faster. What it comes down to is they are woods ball markers; every aspect of their design revolves around woods ball. So now why am I a idiot when I am right?
Last edited on Thursday, March 10th, 2005 at 6:29 pm PST
   

Sporefrog Thursday, March 10th, 2005 | 4:43 pm PST
quote:
Originally posted by warrenworier
sporfrog are you retarded i paly sinper sometimes its when your in full cammo, you lay in brush weeds and wait for someine to come buy, shoot the crap out of them and find another spot. The term CAMPER is used also.

You call me retarded and yet you misspell the words "play", "sniper", "camo", "someone", and used the word “buy” (as in, I went to the store to buy a shirt) instead of by.

quote:
Originally posted by wickedlester
Fuerer,
Your "four factors of distance" does have something to do with how far the paint will go, but it also depends on the bolt. Every bolt is different, so every distance will be different. Even at the same velocity, a TIPPMANN will shoot farther then most markers. They were made to shoot farther rather then shoot faster. What it comes down to is they are woods ball markers; every aspect of their design revolves around woods ball. So now why am I a idiot when I am right?


Explain to me why bolts matter in distance. If I throw a ball and the velocity of the throw and the angle are the same but my arm is white and yours is black will the ball go further for one or another? No, because those things don't matter. All the bolt does is really load the next ball, and is a passage for air to go towards the ball. No matter how you shoot the air at the ball if it is going the same speed at the same angle on the same planet, it will go the same distance.

So I am calling you an idiot because you are one, idiot.

Just admit it, your paintball gun blows.

Last edited on Thursday, March 10th, 2005 at 4:46 pm PST
   

Sporefrog Thursday, March 10th, 2005 | 4:44 pm PST
quote:
Originally posted by fuerer325
your an idoit cause i didn't post that

retard get off this site


I posted that, he's just to stupid to read the name of the poster and apply it to his post.
   

warrenworier Thursday, March 10th, 2005 | 6:27 pm PST
ok sporefrog i spelled a couple words wrong. WHATS YOUR F-ING POINT im not that pathetic to sit there and spell check stuff. i have other stuff to do but just for you i spell checked this one. And bolts do matter if you would shoot a sealed bolt then shoot a not sealed bolt the sealed bolt would shoot the ball farther ( not factoring the weather ) because the ball has more push to it. THERE ALL SPELL CHECKED FOR YA!!!!
   

warrenworier Thursday, March 10th, 2005 | 6:31 pm PST
No crap fuerer325 a tippmann98 cant compete with a MAG. ITS A HELL OF ALOT MORE THAN THEN TIPPMANN. So how bout u stop trying to make yourself look good cuz the gun only matters a little its mostly the play. You could have any gun you want but if you cant do anything with it your wasting your time.
Last edited on Thursday, March 10th, 2005 at 6:55 pm PST
   

wickedlester Thursday, March 10th, 2005 | 6:36 pm PST
quote:
Originally posted by Sporefrog


You call me retarded and yet you misspell the words "play", "sniper", "camo", "someone", and used the word “buy” (as in, I went to the store to buy a shirt) instead of by.



Explain to me why bolts matter in distance. If I throw a ball and the velocity of the throw and the angle are the same but my arm is white and yours is black will the ball go further for one or another? No, because those things don't matter. All the bolt does is really load the next ball, and is a passage for air to go towards the ball. No matter how you shoot the air at the ball if it is going the same speed at the same angle on the same planet, it will go the same distance.

So I am calling you an idiot because you are one, idiot.

Just admit it, your paintball gun blows.


Not really, the bolt pushes the ball out of the gun, and yeah if pushes the ball out the same speed as the velocity is set to, but the TIPPMANN bolt is bigger, so it pushes it out faster. It make a difference
   

warrenworier Thursday, March 10th, 2005 | 6:44 pm PST
wickedlester, i agree with you but when he said ...
You call me retarded and yet you misspell the words "play", "sniper", "camo", "someone", and used the word “buy” (as in, I went to the store to buy a shirt) instead of by.

He was talking to me im not trying to be retarted or anyhting. But these ppl have no clue what they are talking about
   

warrenworier Friday, March 11th, 2005 | 5:54 am PST
ok fuerer325 you said 1: you can buy USED mags at just about the same price as a UPPED TIPPY
4: you call me out, as dumb as you are, without looking at any of my info

i looked at your info you want a Cookie your from indy so? im from ohio theres no speed ball around here and even if there were i wouldn't go ive played woods ball the 2 years ive been playing. i have my own woods ball course and another woods ball course with no bunkers just brush, so how bout you stop crying. i havent enterd any torments cuz i dont drive and i live in ohio. and if you dont kno OHIO NEVER HAS TORMENTS. If they do its like 100$ to enter and i have better stuff to spend my money on

ya i said tippmanns are the best woods ball guns what i ment was there the best for the price not the performance. Ive tried a few guns out ( spyder, Parana, stuff like that) and none were as good as my tippmann. you have your views on it and i have mine.
   

Sporefrog Friday, March 11th, 2005 | 10:43 am PST
quote:

Not really, the bolt pushes the ball out of the gun, and yeah if pushes the ball out the same speed as the velocity is set to, but the TIPPMANN bolt is bigger, so it pushes it out faster. It make a difference


You are stupid. It doesn’t matter that the gun can shoot the balls faster because all fields have a FPS limit of 300 fps or under. So since all of the guns are shooting the same speed, they are all pretty much shooting the same distance. Can you at least agree with me on that?
   

warrenworier Friday, March 11th, 2005 | 12:10 pm PST
Ya I can see where your getting at sporefrog
   

fuerer325 Friday, March 11th, 2005 | 12:36 pm PST
ok warrenworier
we have our deferent views----but all you did was make your self look more like a noob.
bye the way i don't live in Indy i live in WEST LAFAYETTE
and used mags are better than uped tippys--ask any none bias forum

   
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