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rottensquad07 Sunday, February 27th, 2005
Period of
Product Use:
Only tested66 of 71 people found this review helpful.

Paintball
Experience:
More than 5 years
Similar
Products Used:
Dragun ONE, B2K4, Odyssey O3
Marker Setup: Diablo Wrath, Check it drop, AIM 68 regulator, Freak kit, Egg II w/ Z-board, and 68 / 3000.
Recommended
Upgrades:
Delrin bolt when it comes out, barrel, the usual
Strengths: See review
Weaknesses: See review
Review: I purchased the new Diablo Wrath this week from Brady's Paintball. Right out of the box, I knew this thing was going to be a monster.

When I first saw this marker, I knew I had to have it. The gun arrived on Thursday this week, and I was not disappointed. Out of the box, the gun has some good quality parts. Unlike its closest cousins the O2 and the O3, this marker had a nice looking foregrip regulator. Upon inspection, I noticed the regulator was similar in operation to my AIM regulator or a Bob Long. The air flow pathways in the regulator are a little small, but I was impressed overall. The gun features a rail type mount which has those funky Dragun type threads. The regulator is however standard threaded, so only the mount needs replacing if the user decides. The anno was a high polish blue to silver fade. I must say the pics on the site do not do this thing justice. The LPR is a O3 type, and has great flow and performance. One thing that caught my eye right away was the ram sleeve. I think it was good of Diablo to use this design as it gives the gun a more "performance" look. In the ram sleeve sat a ram very similar to the O3. One difference on this part of the gun was that the ram appears to be pure brass, and not brass coated over a nylon tip like on the O3. The ram spring is about 1.5 inches long, and is very light. Much much shorter then the ram spring in the ONE. The bolt is the usual aluminum type, but is ok if well lubed with some Dow. After moving the bolt forward a few times, I realized how smooth and short the stroke on this marker is. Very comparable to the O3. The clamping feedneck stock was another nice touch, but it is one of the weaker points of the gun. It has a cheap, rough feel to it, and I will be replacing mine with the Odyssey twist clamp. The stock barrel is your usual Odyssey / Dragun type with Autococker threads. These stock barrels are some of the best stock barrels around. The grips are a smoke color and allow the black LCD to be visible. They have a nice feel to them.

Later on, I decided I needed to take the marker apart. It is a weird thing, but I just like to see the "insides" before I go shooting so I can better understand the marker. Upon opening up the grip, I noticed the LCD board was similar to the O2. The wires were tied together neatly, and the overall look of the electronics was good. The solenoid is a clapper type noid, with a valve mounted on the front. The clapper is activated, and this pushes the valve core in. Air rushes in, and a spring on the opposite side of the valve chamber pushes it back closed. This type of noid is completely rebuildable, and looks to have a high flow capacity. I did notice that this noid is very hard to put back in right, so I do not recommend its removal unless maintenance is required. Since I had the frame off, I set the trigger at this point. The trigger is exactly like the O3 with the lever, and 2 point adjust-ability. One thing I really liked was ther marker has dual detents. They are little rubber nubs that can be accessed by taking the eye covers off. After I set the trigger, I put the eye wires in the channels on the body and put the frame back on. I recommend doing this with the marker upside down so you can set the trigger frame on the top. This will make the placement of the wires easier, and ensure that the screws do not fall into your lap. I then lubed the LPR, HPR, bolt, and ram with dow and put the gun completely back together.

Saturday was the first time I got to actually shoot the marker. I screwed on my 68 / 3000, set my HPR to 250 psi, and began turning the LPR in. I loaded a few balls, and fired. I was shooting well over 300 fps, so I turned the HPR down to 200 psi. When it was all said and done, the marker was running at about 190 psi and shooting 285-290 fps. I shot about a tank full of air just to break the regs in. The marker has a very solid feel to it, and it was very responsive. I could easily walk the trigger 12 bps, but there is some undesirable trigger slop. I recommend a Zenitram trigger to help that problem. After I emptied the tank, I refilled, and put my egg on the marker. I was shooting some Diablo paint that I had. With my Freak kit, I was getting + / - 7 fps with the stock regulator. Not too shabby. I then went out to test the eyes on this thing. I pointed the marker at a cardboard box I had, and let it rip. I emptied the hopper quickly w/o chopping or breaking a ball. The accuracy was superb at 50 ft. At this point I was very impressed with the marker. I did however experience a leak later in the day. The adapter that the LPR screws into uses odd size o-rings, and I had to use some automotive o-rings to seal it up. I added another small o-ring to the adapter retaining screw for precaution. All in all, we shot about 700 rounds consecutively through the marker by dumping pod after pod into the hopper. I did not have one break, and the eyes worked flawlessly. I was very impressed none the less. This marker is fast, and I had good air efficiency. I still had about 1000 psi after 700 rounds, so I estimate about 900 – 1200 shots on my 68 / 3000. The marker is about the same weight as an O3, but is about 2 inches shorter then the ONE. It has a very nice feel, and overall setup. The reg is close to the frame which makes you more compact, and the gun felt very balanced with my tank on it. My fully upped ONE does not even compare. Even with the ram mod I had, the wrath still has less kick and better consistency. I think the price is a steal for what you get. I would have shelled out $400.00 for this thing. If you are considering buying one, I would defiantly recommend it.

Conclusion: Great gun, very easy to use, good on air, I give it a 10!!!!!
Rating:
10 out of 10Last edited on Monday, April 18th, 2005 at 6:16 pm PST
 

Review Comments
TXPB Saturday, March 5th, 2005 | 8:50 pm PST
DId you use any loctite or anything on the hex screw for the regulator adjustment?
   

rottensquad07 Sunday, March 6th, 2005 | 5:59 pm PST
alright guys I spent another day with the Wrath. I tried it today with a gravity fed hopper for the ultimate chop test. I played all day, and put hundreds of rounds through it. Not a single break. The gun shoots absolutely flawlessly. If you sweetspot everything, this is truely an AWESOME gun. As far as the question above, I do not use loctite on the regulator, and you should not either. You will need to turn it up or down depending on your paint match.
   

djxmd1215 Wednesday, June 1st, 2005 | 6:36 pm PST
How does the Odyssey O3 compare to the Wrath?
   

paquu Sunday, June 12th, 2005 | 4:15 pm PST
hey i would like to know about those automotive rings, are they big or small, because i have random o rings that i found in my house that i could use (there a little bigger than a braces elastic). if u could give me anymore info about them it would be a big help. thanks
Last edited on Sunday, June 12th, 2005 at 4:17 pm PST
   

sktbrdngpetey Thursday, July 21st, 2005 | 5:09 pm PST
quote:
Originally posted by fireeye19
not that great of a gun its trigger is crapy and is nt real air conservitive

you cant even spell. Do you think anyone will take you seriously? And it is a great gun, its fast, light, and compact. You don't know what your talking about. Trigger is all personal preference. Don't post unless you actually have something usefull to say
   

Dyeplaya123 Sunday, July 24th, 2005 | 8:26 pm PST
good reveiw man its good how u didnt bash any other gun like so many other people do today nice very nice
   

rottensquad07 Tuesday, December 6th, 2005 | 8:12 pm PST
---Update as of 12/6/05 ---

I have nothing but praise for this marker as of now. I have played with it for over 9 months, and I have had the best time with it. To answer the above question, I liked it better then the 03. Basically a little heavier, but so many more options like the t-board, delrin parts, etc.
   

hype/ryan Tuesday, January 3rd, 2006 | 11:03 am PST
I have a question, you know in the options how there is the shot counter,timer and the others what does this Power option do??? I have played with it on and on auto and i dont see the difference does anyone know what it does?? plz reply or e-mail me at quiksilver717@hotmail.com I would like to know .
   

paintintexan Sunday, January 8th, 2006 | 9:07 pm PST
sorry to bother you with this simple question but im researching for a friend who wants to get into paintball. anyway i was wondering if you can put co2 in it. the website doesnt say and the forums would take forever to reply. thanks for any imput and happy hunting out there
   

ryan64 Wednesday, February 8th, 2006 | 12:22 pm PST
yes you can use co2 but it freezes the gun which can possibly lead to rusting.
   

rottensquad07 Friday, August 4th, 2006 | 6:47 pm PST
---UPDATE AS OF 8/4/2006---

Still rockin' my Wrath. I honestly cannot say a bad thing about this marker. It is the most reliable marker I have ever owned and that is a lot.
   

donny262007 Wednesday, June 20th, 2007 | 10:19 am PST
quote:
Originally posted by rottensquad07
alright guys I spent another day with the Wrath. I tried it today with a gravity fed hopper for the ultimate chop test. I played all day, and put hundreds of rounds through it. Not a single break. The gun shoots absolutely flawlessly. If you sweetspot everything, this is truely an AWESOME gun. As far as the question above, I do not use loctite on the regulator, and you should not either. You will need to turn it up or down depending on your paint match.
Your not supposed to really use locktite on anything on your marker, it can drip down and screw up your internals.
   

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