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| Less than a month | 286 of 306 people found this review helpful.
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Paintball
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2 years |
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Similar
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Dynasty Shocker, Shocker 03 |
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| Marker Setup: |
Smart Parts Ion - Black (Serial #10)
NDz Roller Trigger
Predator Board w/ Palmer Swivel QEV
Modified Bolt
Hybrid B!tch Grips
CP Rail and On/Off
CCM Low-Pro Feedneck
Halo B w/ Rip Drive and v35
PMI 68/4500 HP |
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Primary upgrades:
- Barrel
- Fast Hopper
- Off/On Drop Combo
- Feedneck
- NEW TANK
Secondary upgrades
- Grips
- Trigger or a trigger mod (no magnet)
- New Board (when or if they come out with one) |
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| Strengths: |
- Light
- PRICE!
- Accurate
- Fast
- Reliable |
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| Weaknesses: |
- Trigger (kinda)
- Barrel (ehh...kinda)
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So yea. I got my ION a couple of days ago and the first thing I need was test it out over a chrono right away at my local pro shop. I gased it up and i shot 280, 281, 279, 280, 281...and I'm like...B.S. so i went to another chrono and shot 279, 281, 282, 280, 278. I'm thinking to myself not bad for a gun out of box. But i was still not buying it so I loaded a hopper and let it rip. AND RIP AND RIP! Man, this sucker is fast. I haven't even set it on rebound...so of course I took it back in and MAX my ROF and put it on rebound and ripped another hopper. While I was ripping, I had one of the guys at the shop look at my gauge...they were like...hardly even moved, maybe +/- 1. Okay Okay. I'm getting to like my new investment. So here are my observations and suggestions, ie upgrades:
Barrel - pretty accurate for a stock barrel. SP usually puts out good barrels, but honestly this marker can much quieter and accurate with a barrel upgrade, ie CP barrels, Freak barrels, All American barrels, even a Evil Pipe Kit. (REMEMBER: ION takes IMPULSE threads.)
Feedneck - I think its pretty high. Gotta get a low profile feedneck. I don't really have a suggestion on which on cos' I still have mine stock, but I'm planning to buy maybe the q-lock, or any other low rise feedneck. <~ personal preference.
Reg - I wouldn't spend your money on this upgrade, unless you have a personal preference. I like the reg. You just need to break the sucker in, that's it.
Body - I like it. ITS NOT "plastic", its "polymer." Same thing. However its polymer coated ALUMINUM, Therefore DURABLE! You can sticker the snot out of this gun. Totally pimp the body out. I personally might get carbon fiber stickers and sticker the body, well portions.
Internals - Big FAN of SP internals. High Quality, I think. But one thing I didn't like is disassembly. It was pretty tough, but honestly this will make you a better tech if you can disassembly this sucker. Also, the hoses are exposed, but so are the timmy solenoid hoses. Oh well.
Board - People. Listen. 17 bps is pretty fast. Not gonna lie, I like no cap, but this is a very good board with a very good eye system. Vision eyes, I think, are the best out there. Besides...a month or two...there will be a board and I'm going to get one. You can get one right now at zdspb.com, but still won't go faster than 17 bps because of....
The Bolt and Solenoid - watch out for these aftermarket upgrades. THIS WILL MAKE THIS MARKER GO PAST 17 bps. SP said they have reached the low 20s with the ION, but I call BS on that. However, with these upgrades plus a new board (Please WAS make one!) you'll get your fast marker.
Feel - is great. So freakin' light!
Duckbill ASA - I HATE IT! makes the gun way to long. I just don't like the fact that SP says its better to get an Off/On for the marker. why not put one on? oh well. Get a NDz, CiP, or custom products RAIL-Off/On COMBO
Trigger - its not bad, but not good. It helps to take off the magnet to make it less stiff and also you can go to pbnation.com forums and a dude is making custom triggers that are pretty phat. I'm getting one...
Noise - I like it. Not noisy at all, really. Like I said, getting a new barrel would probably help with reduction of noise.
Durability - OH yea. One thing. There is a review out there by Sporefrog which says that this ION is horrible BLAH BLAH BLAH and is not durable. He states that he "slided" into a bunker and hit is hopper/feedneck on the ground. Well, if you slided correctly you wouldn't have this problem NEWB! anyway, just venting. This gun feels durable, and has the ability to withstand tournament style play.
Tank - It would be helpful to get a HP tank. You can get a LP tank, but make sure you get a Crossfire because they have the best recharge for their LP tanks and ONLY use them if you have a LP tank. I know people use other LP tank, but that means more tinkering with dwell and reg press BLAH BLAH BLAH. Also, you could get shootdown. Honestly, this gun's pressure is perfect out of box so do yourself a favor, invest in a HP tank. I am.
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Overall. If you need a backup gun, this is a great marker to get. If your sick and tired of your spyder, get this gun. This marker is a high quality marker and deserves to be a high-end marker. Honestly, this gun is awesome that this could be your primary gun. The price speaks for itself and compared to other high-end guns...this marker isn't bad at all. Go out and get yourself one, you won't be disappointed. |
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| 10 out of 10 | Last edited on Monday, June 6th, 2005 at 11:02 pm PST |
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Awsome review |
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Thank You! Finally an un-biased review! |
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One other thing you want might to mention, is that for only $15, you can buy an Eclipse QEV (for the front banjo fitting). That will double the cycling speed and greatly increase efficiency.
For example, on my friend's Ion:
Dwell - Went down from 52 to 12. Yes, I said 12.
Cycling - Went up from the low 20 cps to about 28 cps. (This has been verified)
Pressure - We were able to drop it from 160 psi all the way to 120 psi, and still get 285 fps with such a short dwell time. If we had left the dwell time stock (at 52), we could have gotten the input pressure BELOW 100 PSI!
Efficiency - Went up from 1,250 shots (ish) per cool 68/4.5 fill to about 1,400.
All with a simple $15 upgrade. |
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where can you get this |
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Any proshop. |
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Great review, tkx allot man, u convinced me :-) |
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Hey. i just bought one of these puppies and i need to no if it come with a recharger for the batteries?? i got mine on eBay and it didn't if it did or not and it didn't show in the picture |
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Last edited on Thursday, April 21st, 2005 at 3:08 pm PST |
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There is no charger or batteries... it just uses regular nine-volts. |
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yo nice review it makes me want to get an ion
i have 1 question though, should i sell my A-5 with a flatline and double trigger for an ion. every one is saying to do that but they never even used the ion. i don't know what to do because a worker at my local shop said they brake easily, so now im really confused.
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idk dude |
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i say go for it |
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hey i just got this Ion and toke it to a course to play..but i couldnt get it to crono under 300...it was hitt 330 to 315 any one else have this problem? if so did you fix it or have any requests for me so i can....i was bumbed that i couldnt use it..so i had to brake out my old spyder..lol |
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but this is a very good board with a very good eye system. Vision eyes, I think, are the best out there. Besides...a month or two.
the ion has break beam eyes by the way. but other then that good review. |
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Last edited on Sunday, November 20th, 2005 at 11:20 am PST |
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polymer coated aluminum? you must be kidding me...the body is ALL plastic (polymer, which is just a fancy name for plastics). The firechamber, and breech is aluminum... i own a ion so dont try to flame me saying im wrong |
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quote:
Originally posted by bam182skate
yo nice review it makes me want to get an ion
i have 1 question though, should i sell my A-5 with a flatline and double trigger for an ion. every one is saying to do that but they never even used the ion. i don't know what to do because a worker at my local shop said they brake easily, so now im really confused.
Ok man heres my thought... I think you should think about what kind of style you play the most....if you play more speedball go for the Ion if you play more woods than stick with your A-5 just my thought. |
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hey, currently have a spyder xtra and am thinking of upgrading to the spyder electra acs '05 . was looking at the ion too and figured urs would be an unbiased answer if i asked whats ur oppinion on the electra vs. ion? |
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Great review, we need more reviews like this one. |
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yeah, im with "pbgun4fun". im getting tired of putting so much money into my cocker and im thinking about getting either an ion or electra. all the guys at my local pro shop say get an ion. they all shoot them and love'm. they arent biased people or anything. but they were saying the ion is WAY more durable, especailly internally. something about the electra just beats itself up on the inside with that acs......or something like that. iono. anyways, they way i see it is.........if u cant be satisfied shooting 17bps with an ion, then something is wrong. i mean, i do just fine with mech guns. i only pull about 6 or 7 with my cocker but when someone is running across field YOU MUST F***ING SUCK IF U CANT HIT THEM WITHIN A COUPLE OF SECONDS OF SHOOTING. AND SHOOTING 17 BPS SHOULD BE PLENTY lol. iono, none of this crap has a point to it, im just venting on people that say 17 sucks and it is not enough, and bla bla bla etc. |
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Excellent reveiw |
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Predator board for an ion isnt out yet i dont think just to let you know ... there the tboard>Virtue>black heart |
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