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Dlitz Tuesday, March 8th, 2005
The accuracy of this review is disputed. Please see discussion below.
Period of
Product Use:
3 months3 of 4 people found this review helpful.

3 years
Products Used:
-Sheridan PGP - Another pistol
-Spyder Fenix - Another blowback
Marker Setup: -Stock PT Extreme Jr.
-New spring kit
Strengths: -Light
-Quick firing
Weaknesses: -Inefficient with air
-Low velocity
-Air O-ring swells
Review: Alrighty, I'm not too sure what to make of this thing. I'm also not sure how it's gotten away with all these happy, gloryous reviews without at least one or two 2 scores. It's not that great a sidearm. Seriously.

I'll go through the strengths and weaknesses in order, as they balence each other out. Take your pick which is more important to you, because I don't care too much. It's a moderate quality gun.

It's a very light gun. I find it wonderful for running with and moving up on people. You have no idea just how much your heavy marker is holding you down until you make an off-the-line run to the fifty in speedball with one of these. It's very nice. While there are likely lighter paintball pistols, in fact the pump ones generally have a tendency to be half the weight of this thing, it still is pretty light. Though, I wouldn't recommend dragging it around with you as a sidearm though. Sidearm would indicate it would be easy to move on your side. Not really the case... That's below.

A little pistol like this can be shot relatively quickly. Though you have such a small marker and you're more likely to miss, you're not going to be afraid of not being able to shoot fast enough. Though with only ten rounds, you're probably not going to want to. Taking two markers out would fix a few problems, and look really cool.

Now, the weaknesses. There're more of these, but it's alright.

This marker uses 12g air canisters, so it only gets a certain number of shots. Where stock-class markers, the markers which were designed for using 12gs origionally and are powered by a hand-pump, get 30-40 shots per 12g, this marker only gets about 25. This is for two reasons. One, this is a blow-back marker, like a small Spyder or something, so it uses its air to blow its hammer and bolt back into a cocked position after every shot. This works fine in practice, but it cuts into air efficiency. Two, it has no o-ring on its bolt. For this reason the bolt will vent a huge quantity of gas out the back of the gun and into your face. This will reduce velocity, requiring you to turn up the velocity, requiring more air. I recommend shooting slowly as well, to keep your air expanding properly within the gun so you can get the maximum number of shots per 12g.

Then the velocity is also very low, topping at 220 fps stock. A new spring will help, but I suspect it will further reduce the number of shots you can get. The stock spring is pretty light, so a new spring should fix the velocity anyway. Spyder spring kits fit fine.

I know people keep posting it's accurate, but honestly I don't believe this to be true. I play pump most of the time, and that means my paintballs must be accurate. If my pump shot like this, I'd dump it in the trash. I guess it's accurate for a Spyder-clone with a six-inch barrel, but I still wouldn't call it accurate. I also have a Spyder, and that still shoots more accurately than this. If you aim down the top of the gun, it will not go where you aim because the magazine isn't exactly sitting still on top of the gun, it in fact wiggles quite a bit, skewing your shot. Aiming down the side helps a little. It's not all that bad then.

It's pointy. What's that mean? Don't put it in a holster. With all the various sharp points sticking out of it, it would get stuck and does. I don't holster it anymore myself because it just gets stuck in it too much. Play with it as a primary marker instead.

When you use this gun, the o-ring that seals the 12g into the air chamber with the twist-cap will swell, making it very difficult to change out the 12g. They provide a nice, not-so-easy to find leaver to undo this cap, but it never really struck me quite why they didn't just imitate the design of the PGP and just plain not need that o-ring, as a decent design would have prevented any need for it and made switching easier on the fly. Irreguardless, it won't kill anything, just might make switching 12gs slower for you.
Conclusion: It's not bad. I don't like all those problems, but it's not trash-worthy. I like it, just there are probably far better semi pistols out there, and it probably would be better for a side-arm to be restricted to a PGP or other pump marker designed for 12gs.
5 out of 10Last edited on Thursday, March 10th, 2005 at 9:00 pm PST

Review Comments
Donster 125 Wednesday, June 7th, 2006 | 5:57 pm PST
Wow, i dont even own this gun and already from this guys review i can tell that hes biased. You cant compare a pistol to a pump on any levels whatsoever. It just doens't work. Furthermore, its a blowback pistol, totally opposite of the pumps. The only relation that this marker has to a pump is its air supply and ammo supply (both of which can be changed on pumps via adding a hooper and an airtank in replace of the 10 round tubes and 12oz Co2 canisters). So, save your comparisons for online formums buddy, not for a review on the priduct. You told me noth about the product other than that it is not a pump gun, which is good, cause i hate pumps.
Last edited on Wednesday, June 7th, 2006 at 5:58 pm PST

tomongoose Thursday, January 24th, 2008 | 2:48 pm PST
You are supposed to be reviewing the pistol not compareing it to a pump they are different markers for dfifferent jobs

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