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BunkerBuddy_666 Friday, March 18th, 2005
The accuracy of this review is disputed. Please see discussion below.
Period of
Product Use:
Only tested0 of 6 people found this review helpful.

Paintball
Experience:
4 years
Similar
Products Used:
04 BKO with freak
Marker Setup: My Setup:
04 Unmilled BKO
12" all americain freak
48/3000 pure energy hpa tank
Empire reloader B

My friends feestyle setup:
Generation 2 2004 FreeStyle (bone stock)
48/3000 Pure energy HPA
Empire reloader B
Recommended
Upgrades:
Barrel
Good paint
Tool kit
Strengths: The Looks
Speed
Somewhat accurate
Smooth trigger
PDS
Clamping feed neck
Weaknesses: Quite a long list actually not what I expected. See below.
Review: KEY WEAKNESSES:
trigger pull is long
PDS and on off switches too close together
Balls lob out, and drop dead after 75-100 ft
Difficult to maintain (will be expalined later)
PDS difficult to figure out
Manual is on a CD, requires a media player, Acrobat reader, and a computer which are not included, and its for a gen 1 FS not a gen 2.

REVIEW:
We figured the factory setting would work, so we stuck a battery in, and played around with the PDS and on/off switched to figure oout how to get it to work. That took about 30 minuets. We put air and paint in it, and started shooting it. The trigger pull was a little long so we figured we'd just adjust it later. after about 20 shots, we got a barrel break. Cleaned it out, started shooting again. The balls would lob out and drop dead after 75-100 feet, which kinda sucked, but they landed right on top of eachother. after about 100 shots, we chopped in the breech. We wathed the movie on the CD on how to remove the bolt. It said, Remove the screw at the back of the gun and slide the top back part of the gun off. We do that, but the back part wont come off. So we compleatly take apart the triger frame only to find 2 screw holding to bolt thing to the frame. we take those out, and pull, it still wont come off. We just said screw it and we cleaned it the best we could with a cue tip. After that, we spent 2 hours adjusting the trigger but its just way too long of a pull.
Conclusion: I dont like how long the trigger pull is but its smooth.
The balls lobbing and dropping made it difficult to tell what your going to hit.
Chops quite a bit and difficult to clean. cant be field stripped
Rating:
6 out of 10
 

Review Comments
Haxxorboi Sunday, March 20th, 2005 | 4:51 pm PST
Fixes
trigger pull is long - Adjust it with an allen wrench, that should be the first thing you did

PDS and on off switches too close together - Gen 2 boards have only 1 switch, you got a Gen 1

Balls lob out, and drop dead after 75-100 ft - Either was the broken ball or you have no idea how to correctly adjust the regs, not the gun's fault

Difficult to maintain (will be expalined later) - Use a squeeqie or dowel to push bolt out from front, they are ALWAYS hard to get off the first time

PDS difficult to figure out -
Gen 1 board: You have the GEN 1 MANUAL don't you?
Gen 2 board: Hold trigger, turn on = PDS off Don't hold trigger, turn on = PDS on....

Manual is on a CD, requires a media player, Acrobat reader, and a computer which are not included, and its for a gen 1 FS not a gen 2. - There are VERY few differences between a gen 1 and gen 2, the only main one is the HE bolt, which just means you have to line up a spot in the bolt, whoopie
   

under.OATH Monday, March 21st, 2005 | 12:04 pm PST
"trigger pull is long"

ICD triggers are 4 point adjustable (pivot point, spring tension, switch contact and pull length). And the Freestyle comes with allens to adjust the trigger. Usually takes me about 2 minutes to adjust a trigger on my freestyle completely differently.

"PDS and on off switches too close together"

On Gen2's there is only 1 switch. You either A) donít have this gun or B) Bought a Gen1 thinking it was a gen2 because you donít do research on the gun you buy

Itís never been a problem for me, unless you have fat fingers...

"Balls lob out, and drop dead after 75-100 ft"

This is what we call velocity adjusting; paintball makers are equipped with pneumatics. Part of this design involves a "high pressure regulator" and a "low pressure regulator (AKA- HPR, LPR). You adjust these with allen keys to your desired performance. And since you donít even know how to take apart your gun, I highly doubt you lubed the bolt assembly (standard maintenance on any gun) or attempted to fix the problem.


"Difficult to maintain (will be expalined later)"

1 screw, 1 tube of lube, 1 minute. Youíre done. This is the only maintenance required before you paintball (every couple cases maybe). It's not that hard.

"PDS difficult to figure out"

Ok, as previously stated you own the 2 switch design. 1 switch turns gun on. 1 switch turns PDS on. Yes, that is VERY difficult. BTW, do you own an ICD freestyle? It's probably the most simple eye design ever. You are a moron.

"Manual is on a CD, requires a media player, Acrobat reader, and a computer which are not included, and its for a gen 1 FS not a gen 2."

Well, seeing as you do own a Gen1 Freestyle (two switches); I think it would be appropriate for it to come with a manual for a Gen1 Freestyle. And since you already have a computer (how did you write this review?) you should be fine.

"We figured the factory setting would work, so we stuck a battery in, and played around with the PDS and on/off switched to figure oout how to get it to work. That took about 30 minuets."

Ok, if figuring out how to work 2 switches takes you 30 of your "minuets", I believe that you have an IQ equal to that of a plant.

We wathed the movie on the CD on how to remove the bolt. It said, Remove the screw at the back of the gun and slide the top back part of the gun off. We do that, but the back part wont come off. So we compleatly take apart the triger frame only to find 2 screw holding to bolt thing to the frame. we take those out, and pull, it still wont come off. We just said screw it and we cleaned it the best we could with a cue tip. After that, we spent 2 hours adjusting the trigger but its just way too long of a pull.

The bolt assembly is kind of tough to get out the first time, but after that it just slides out. Put some muscle into it, and maybe you could use a squeegee to help push it from the front? Use your head maybe? I donít know just a suggestion.

And if adjusting an ICD trigger takes you 2 hours then you are borderline retarded. I adjusted my friends stock trigger pull to a sweet pull in about 2 minutes, not hours, minutes. Itís not that hard buddy. But I can understand if the concept of "post travel" and "activation point" and "spring tension" is too hard for you to comprehend.

Oh and, you reviewed the BKO... "The trigger pull is very adjustable and has a good feel to it." - ... It's the same trigger...

I won't even get into adjusting the regs (even though it's very simple) because that will just cause your head to explode.

Last edited on Monday, March 21st, 2005 at 12:17 pm PST
   

ICECUBE Tuesday, March 22nd, 2005 | 4:37 pm PST
This guy obvousily does not know what he is talking about...

"Trigger pull is too long"

Dude, their is a 4 point adjustable trigger, that can be adjusted to your every little prefrence...

"PDS difficult to figure out"

If you cant figure it out, then read the manal, Thats why they make the manual, for dumass's like you...

Im not even gonna finish, cause your a waste of time... Dont rate guns, if you dont know what your talking about...
   

Scott Tuesday, March 29th, 2005 | 2:32 pm PST
OK retard, its not that hard (for most people) if it took you 30 "minuets" to figure out "hey, i bet these switches on the back of the gun are what turns it on" then that may be a problem for you. You said that the trigger is long??? its freakin 4 way adjustable!!!! ADJUSTABLE MEANS YOU CAN ADJUST THE STUPID THING YOU MORON!!!!! make it shorter with just a quick twist of an allen wrench!!! PDS SWITCHES ARE TOO CLOSE TOGETHER??? first off, only one is a PDS switch, the other is the on/off switch, and if you have two switches, why are you complaining about the manual being for a 1st gen gun??? CAUSE THATS WHAT YOU GOT!!! you said that there were 2 screws to take out to get the bolt out, that makes me think you havent ever taken one of these apart because there is only ONE!! right behind the switches. You take it out and pull out the back block. next time put some muscle in it you weenie. If nothing else use a straight shot squeegie or something (if its not too complicated for you) and just push it out. the part about the breaking a ball in the breach, must mean you didnt have the PDS turned on. Hhmmm maybe thats why. And the ball only going so far is because you may have to adjust the regulators, which if you cant figure out how to take the bolt out or even turn the thing on, will be impossible for you. Your review is bogus, the freestyle is awesome. oh, and under.OATH if your talking about the band ROCK ON!!
Last edited on Tuesday, March 29th, 2005 at 2:33 pm PST
   

Flog Monster Monday, April 11th, 2005 | 7:02 am PST
Adjust the trigger stupid its 4 points adjustable. You also own a gen 1 You said the switches are two close together. Gen 1`s have 2 switches.

This is just a poor review, to make him feel better about having a BKO, and not saving more for a freestyle.
   

SiLvA-bUlLeT323 Wednesday, January 11th, 2006 | 4:05 am PST
Dispute:
LoLz you spent two hours adjustin g the trigger....i took an allen key and adjusted it in3 minutes... also the ball lobbing problem is the regulator...the first time i went with the gun if you loosen it to much it lobs and pretty much doesn't even shoot....if you tighten it to much the velocity is to high so it has to be kind of in between so it wont lob or be too high...Trigger pull isn't long at all....if you know how you can rip with this gun.....i can get about 20-21 bps because i adjusted the trigger to fit my style of walking the trigger..and i don't consider "PDS switch and on/off switch to close together" a weakness...before the game take 5 seconds of your time to decide which switch is the right one and turn it on...the manual being on a cd is actually kind of help-full cause it reads it to you and EXPLAINS what to do with a picture and how to do it....if you actually FOLLOW directions this gun is extremely easy to take apart... every one of those things can be downloaded on a computer off of websites.....if you don't have a computer...Were have you been dude...its 2006...Last thing....this thing ONLY chops if your using a revolution hopper...i have not chopped once with this gun with my Empire B Ripped....Long story short you gave an inaccurate review because your newbish....i've had this gun for a year and a half now....hasn't done me wrong...and im also not considering buy another gun til I see a Better gun.....
   

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