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TZX-ZX Sunday, May 22nd, 2005
Period of
Product Use:
1 year5 of 5 people found this review helpful.

Paintball
Experience:
More than 5 years
Similar
Products Used:
Brass Eagle Stingray
GZ-2000
Trracer S/A
Any other low-end blowback.
Marker Setup: Tribal Fluster 2.2 w/ Warlord Controller Board
PMI Drop, Crossfire 68/4500
Lapco Bigshot
Crosman 3357
Recommended
Upgrades:
A new gun, possibly.
If not, a new barrel is a must. Polishing the internals. Drilling to accept an expansion chamber or regulator (in which case a dremel will be your worst enemy). Pretty much an entire marker overhaul.
Strengths: Interesting design.
Safety indicator.
Weaknesses: Operation/Kick
Gas Efficiency
Accuracy
Chopping
Review: I really, really wanted to like this gun. I have always been into the underdog marker and this marker would have fit the bill perfectly. I had bought the gun brand new, and a friend had given me an entire set of spare parts because his clamshell to the weapon broke. I had all the necessary means in the world to keep this gun working.

I have tried for months to have this thing work decently. I think it's main problem comes in its awkward operation and poor body design. Now, I am not one to hamper on plastic bodies. I have owned and operated a Stingray I since its introduction in 1991, and aside from a cheap replacement parts kit, I have never had to fix anything on that marker's body. This marker makes it quite apparent that Brass Eagle's quality control has reduced significantly since Perrone sold his company to Daisy Airguns. Where to start?

The body. It isn't that it is plastic, the problem is that the body is thin, cheaply made, and in most cases, poorly aligned. The rubber grips are nice in areas, and the markers design is certainly interesting, but aside from this, the positives end. Servicing the marker is an absolute nightmare. It is a dizzying maze of screws, springs, and other small rods that can easily be knocked out of place or lost. You really have to be careful when taking apart the marker. Field strippable is definitely not a word that would enter one's mind when dealing with the Samurai (Unless you have an electric powerdrill built into your arms to unscrew the ~8 small screws that hold the body together). The little "logos" on the sides of the clamshells are held in lightly by small plastic tabs that can easily fall off. Also, if the parts in the gun are not positioned absolutely perfectly, the cheap clamshell will refuse to shut.

The operation of this "thing" is even more bewildering. Instead of using any of Brass Eagle's previous (and somewhat proven, Eagle 68 or Stingray) designs, they abandoned and went for some horrible new contraption. Instead of having the bolt frame and valve as a single assembly, they are simply "cupped" together with two extremely large and heavy cross-sections of the bolt. The actual bolt/hammer itself is an extremely minuscule part of the marker's internals. Even polished, the action is extremely clunky. There are visible welds and spotwelds that can be seen on the parts, especially on the undercarriage of the bolt assembly. A far cry from the polished frames and bolt carriers of most modern blowbacks. I suppose BE would get an A for originality here, but an F in execution.

I have played with this marker using both CA and CO2. It fared absolutely horribly with both. The marker literally has recoil. Not "oh I have a blowback" recoil, but "hey look at my automatic pistol" style recoil. The operating pressure of the marker, coupled with the heavy parts, makes for the internals literally hammering inside the body. This rough and overpowered operation ends up causing for one of three possibilities:

A) The ball shoots out the (around 4.5 inch) barrel with decent accuracy. This is the best option.
B) The ball shoots out the barrel and tumbles wildly due to being slapped by the bolthead.
C) The ball chops, and makes a nice "poof" out the front of the barrel.

From my extended experience in playing with this marker, options B and C tend to happen the most. The chamber that the balls drop in to is extremely loose and empty. The balls literally have too much freedom, and if they fall anywhere where the bolt might come in contact, you are going to have a messy break on your hands. Aside from this, I really have no clue why Brass Eagle decided with their amazing "Hay guyz lets make a 4 inch barral for xtreeem accuracy" reasoning, but it certainly does not help the marker out. That, and there is no way I would consider cutting/altering an Autococker barrel to fit this marker.

Out on the field, the design proved to just be too inferior. Having to break from the action every few minutes to squeegee out the thick paint buildup in the barrel and dealing with the poor accuracy just got to be too much. That and the weight, for a plastic marker, rivals that of the VM-68 or Edge PG-1 Pro. It is simply a chore to use this marker out on the field.

As a quick afterthough, the stock double-finger trigger was quite a novelty when the marker was introduced. I liked that.
Conclusion: It is just really sad. I wanted so much to like this marker and make it work, but alas, out of trying multiple sets of internals and doing different troubleshooting tips, I have been unable to make this marker perform at the level that any standard blowback should operate at.

It is a combination of the facts that the quality control was in an ever-degraded condition at the time of production, the extremely awkward (and heavy) internal design, the high operating pressure, the rough movement of the bolt, and the overly loose chamber that lead to the marker being one of the worst I have ever fielded- and I have fielded some stinkers. I put a lot of labor into trying to make this marker perform, and has left me with nothing but frustration.

I ended up throwing away the marker a last night after one last, feeble attempt to refurbish anything wrong with the parts and make it work. I wouldn't sell it to my worst paintballing enemy, I wouldn't want them to have to go through what I did with the marker. I suppose now, the lowly and agregious Brass Eagle Samurai can be compacted and sent to paintball heaven (or hell).

Not recommended, at all. A wholly earned 1.
Rating:
1 out of 10
 

Review Comments
eric mac Sunday, May 22nd, 2005 | 7:11 am PST
wut du u expect wen u buy sumthin frum brass eagle
   

Mars47 Sunday, May 22nd, 2005 | 8:57 am PST
Great review, man. You actually reviewed the gun not the manufacteror, which gets a plus in my book. Most people are like, "OMFG LOLorZ! Diz Gat SuxorZ!!11!!!!one one" You actually reviewed it, which leads me to believe you actually own the gun (like I speculate most poeple on here don't own/ever shot the guns they review.)

Great job. Sorry to hear about your gun, hope you didn't spend too much on it...Grats on the 'ray. ;)
   

TZX-ZX Saturday, May 28th, 2005 | 12:42 am PST
quote:
Originally posted by Mars47
Great review, man. You actually reviewed the gun not the manufacteror, which gets a plus in my book. Most people are like, "OMFG LOLorZ! Diz Gat SuxorZ!!11!!!!one one" You actually reviewed it, which leads me to believe you actually own the gun (like I speculate most poeple on here don't own/ever shot the guns they review.)

Great job. Sorry to hear about your gun, hope you didn't spend too much on it...Grats on the 'ray. ;)

I actually only spent 25 bucks on it, not too bad. It really was a damn shame, because I feel bad for Brass Eagle, but a bit angry at the same time. Oh, and the Stingray has probably been the best purchase I ever made. Even though I bought it in 1991 and have since moved on from it, it still remains my number one backup gun and gets dusted-off regularly for recball games.
   

mad dawg Tuesday, November 29th, 2005 | 10:49 am PST
i personbaly like this gun. it does have major flaws, but mine didnt have nearly as many problems as yours. i decided to put duall ball detents on the side of this marker and take out the crappy little one. that small ball detent led to about half of my ball chops, becaus it actualy held the ball above the opening. bad desighn. as for altering an autococker barrel, just alter the gun not the barrel. i hacked off a good piece of the front and put the barrel right in place. not the best gun, but i still feel its as good as a stingray(wich i like as well).

anway sorry for your bad luck
and thanks for an honest review, without just saying it sucks
   

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