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Proto817 Sunday, August 7th, 2005
Period of
Product Use:
3 months8 of 9 people found this review helpful.

2 years
Products Used:
Dm5, Dm4, Shocker
Marker Setup: Cobalt 2005 Proto Matrix w/ dye mini drop forward and bottomline with a Halo B w/ rip drive+z-code. Phat Performance 68/4500.
See Review
Strengths: See Review
Weaknesses: See Review
Review: Well, after a while of playing and getting guns that you had to worry about how fast you could shoot on I decided to get a gun that you didn't have to get all tense waiting for the spray of paint with the awesome chunks of the paintball shells coming out the end of the barrel. Unfortunately that decision was the beginning of a long frezy of research looking for a gun that would have crazy performance in all aspects. After about a month of looking it ended up that i was at Buckmasters (hunting expo) and for some odd reason there was a guy in the middle of the hunting event selling paintball guns.. He had a Proto out in the truck, which I had been researching on, so when i got my hands on it there was no turning back, It was mine. I knew that the proto was similar to a Dm4 and the Dm5 but thats mainly b/c its made by the same company. I have seen in a lot of the comments of the reviews on the protos that a lot of people are very defensive over someone even comparing the Proto with the Dm4, especially the Dm5. But What initially appears to be a little scrunched-together version of the DM technology present in the Dm4, Dm5 and most recently the DmC, eventually grows on anyone who examines a Proto. I have heard it called the poor mans Dm but its definately not, the proto should be up on the list with the dm4 and 5 because it keeps up with the $1400 Dm5 easily. Most of the people that leave comments, it seems now that I have a proto and have seen for myself the actual truth of the proto that they dont know much about it b/c it rips off ropes just as crazy as the Dm4's and 5's.
When you first look at the Marker, its really not any size differance from the dm's. Its the same height as a Dm5, a little wider whcih i have seen comments that it will effect the probabitly of getting shot on the gun while pressing up against a bunker or something, but its not very much wider at all mm's probably, so thats pretty ignorant to say something like that. Its a very quiet marker, i can shoot it in my room at night without waking anyone. The maintanence is clearly explained in the manual, pretty much anyhting you want to know about the marker is in the manual... My other guns were not like that so i thought that was really cool. The manual says to grease the matrix fuse bolt after every 10 to 15 thousand shots which is easy enough but it wouldn't hurt to do that sooner. The bolt is very simple, very quick and easy to maintain the bolt. The entire assembly comes out with 1 and a half turns of a 1/4 allen key and fomr there it breaks down into 4 parts, the cylinder, bolt, rear cap, and top hat. Be sure to check the rear cap is screwed on to the top hat before putting the assembly back into the marker.
The Eyes are flawless it seems, I have not chopped since I have owned the gun, but i have only used a halo b on it, so I couldn't speak for a slower hopper on how well the eyes would work, but i wouldn imagine them to work perfectly.
The effiency is the only thing i havn't thought about paying attention to.. umm i fill up about 2 times a day, i mostly dont worry about it and just get all day air at my local field b/c its cheap but i prob get like 1150 shots or something, dont hold me against that if im wrong its just a guess off how many 500 bags i go through before I fill up.
Its a comfortable gun to shoot, I love the room in the trigger, a lot of people get a cp roller trigger, but it would sacrafice the room and i have heard of people bending the trigger itself to gain the room back but i like the stock trigger, im not to picky though as you can prob tell b/c of the hopper issue.
Out of the box w/o drop or bottomline its barely over 2lbs. My whole setup is somewhere around 7lbs with full tank and empty hopperso its no shocker but thats still not heavy at all. So its great if your worried about fatigue i guess from playing long days at a tournament in the heat.
Right out of the box the velocity was 297 on the first shot... the ref just looked at me. On the second shot it went to 299, I was kinda laughing and kinda nervous b/c I didn't want to look like an idiot reading my manual at the feild trying to figure out how to change the velocity, even though I looked over the manual I didn't pay to much attention to that b/c the manual said its set at 275 or 285 from factory so i didnt worry about it. Then the third shot registered in at 296 and he let me go. Now, my velocity is at 290 and it goes +- 2 an occasional 3 or 4 now and then but thats good, its a very consisitent gun, no drop off what so ever, and the stock board has ABS, an Anti-bolt stick option, it can be turned on or off, but it increases dwell on the first shot after it sits idle for more than 15 seconds to prevent the bolt-stick. I thought that was cool, I made sure all my friends knew that.
The Configuration mode is easy enough, its sounds harder than it is when you read it in the manual but once you change one setting its smooth sailing. I havn't figured out how to get the hopper to empty in 7 seconds b/c of bounce or how to turn the bounce on or whatever i dont know what the hell that crap is, I have never had a gun like that, all my other guns were semi-only(tournament settings/gun) so im clueless. Also i have heard about some full-auto option at 24 bps in the reviews, i dont know about that, its seems that it would be in the manual or something if it had a full-auto option and its nowhere in the manual, i have looked. I tried setting the trigger-sensitivity, (one of the settings) to 1 b/c in the manual it said it you have to low of a value it will appear to shoot full auto, so i set it to 1 and it was a little faster.. thats all i have gotten.

The things i dont like about the gun... the feedneck and the trigger adjustment, the feedneck fits a halo withOUT need to sand it down, I have owned my Halo for quite some time now and the freaking feedneck has been sanded down like 50 times, and now its to small for the proto feedneck so watch out for that., its an easy fix though, as for now tape is my solution but im waiting for my birthday for the ccm no-pro just because its very soon and its working well with tape... Also i have no money. All for air and paintballs. The trigger adjustment is a B**** I hated it. The wires are tight and dont give you much room to seperate the 2 halfs of the gun, the screws are really hard to turn so the combination of the tight wires and the hard to turn screws was not fun, i gave up... its plenty fast at that anways. Also the 12 inch barrel, a little goofy looking but its fine, Im wanting a new barrel but its not a must have, just get one when you get a chance, there isn't any hurry, but a new barrel eventually for sure. One More thing that I didn't like was that when shooting the marker, the body of the gun is above the barrel it looks like, its not a bad thing, its just different. I had to get use to that for snap shooting and then shooting a diff. Then its harder to adjust to a diff gun. But no big problem or anything.
Conclusion: This gun pretty much rocks It will keep up with your fingers no matter how fast they are and the accuracy at about 40 yards is very good, wherever you go off the break im sure the proto will ahve about a 5.5 inch area that it will hit when your shooting as fast as you can. Most likely you will have one of the best guns around, if you look in the comments of f2f4's review, there are a lot of comparisons to the proto over other desired guns in the same class, the proto always comes out on top, so thats pretty much rock solid. Now 2 people could debate for hours over the Pm5, Dm4, and Dm5, but I think they are all really good guns and are very close in performance, and the differance in the price of the proto is well worth the small nic-nacs that the Dm5 and possibly the Dm4 have over the proto. Even so, that doesn't make this a bad gun, the thing rips, suitable for most people, many pro-teams use the proto so thats the proof. You wont have any regrets about buying the gun if you do, and if you are debating on a getting one, I would say to go ahead and get it, you will be very happy.
10 out of 10Last edited on Sunday, August 7th, 2005 at 10:10 am PST

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