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slippie Friday, August 19th, 2005
Period of
Product Use:
3 months3 of 3 people found this review helpful.

Paintball
Experience:
More than 5 years
Similar
Products Used:
Pure energy NO2 tanks.
Marker Setup: Autococker Karnivor, Kaner barrel kit, Empire fuel 68 4500 tank
Strengths: Price, weight, relibality.
Weaknesses: None yet.
Review: This tank has yet to let me down. It has been consistend and a good value. It can take a good punishment from dives and bumping into bunkers. Its not overally heavy anf has a good small shape. The price was good ($200) from a local retailer. The reg has a good strong neck so it can take some abuse.
Conclusion: I would recommend this tank to just about anyone.
Rating:
9 out of 10
 

Review Comments
Snowman282 Monday, August 29th, 2005 | 10:14 pm PST
This may sound "noobish" but, do the ajustable empire tanks attach straigh to the gun....from what Ive seen they aren't threaded.
   

Tabris17 Friday, September 9th, 2005 | 2:03 pm PST
Did you have to put thread locking compound on the reg? Did the sale person inform you that it doesn't come with the locking compund and was there a note in there telling you this?
   

JJBrookshire Saturday, September 10th, 2005 | 6:03 am PST
The history of Paintball dates back to the early 1970’s. In the beginning, the only propellants available to paintball players were disposable 12 gram CO2 cylinders. Over the next three decades paintball propellant choices evolved to include refillable CO2 cylinders and high pressure air/nitrogen systems (HP). Refillable CO2 cylinders are relatively inexpensive when compared to HP systems and are rarely used by competitive players who travel by air to attend events. HP systems, such as Empire Fuel ™ air systems, are by far the preferred propellant systems for these tournament and scenario players.

The following is an excerpt from the United States Transportation Security Administration website:
"Compressed gas cylinders are allowed in checked baggage or as a carry-on ONLY if the regulator valve is completely disconnected from the cylinder and the cylinder is no longer sealed (i.e. the cylinder has an open end). The cylinder must have an opening to allow for a visual inspection inside. TSA Security Screeners will NOT remove the seal/regulator valve from the cylinder at the checkpoint. If the cylinder is sealed (i.e. the regulator valve is still attached), the cylinder is prohibited and not permitted through the security checkpoint, regardless of the reading on the pressure gauge indicator. TSA Security Screeners must visibly ensure that the cylinder is completely empty and that there are no prohibited items inside."

All cylinders used in HP systems must be submitted to periodic hydrostatic testing which requires removal of the regulator/valve. According to leading cylinder manufacturers (including Catalina, Carleton and Luxfer) the use of thread locking compounds such as Loctite™ is not recommended.

So, with these facts in mind all Empire Fuel™ air systems are assembled without the use of Loctite™. These regulators are all but impossible to remove when the cylinders are fully pressurized without the use of tools. Due to the inclusion of patented channels in their threads, these systems will purge completely if accidental unscrewing of the regulator occurs when the cylinder is only partially pressurized. This allows the cylinder to be completely depressurized and the regulator removed by trained personnel without overstressing the neck of the cylinder when proper inspection is required for transportation on commercial aircraft or hydrostatic re-testing.

Do NOT put thread locking compound on the reg.

For more information feel free to email me at jj@nationalpaintball.com
   

Azmodon Thursday, October 27th, 2005 | 1:43 pm PST
well the first paragraph was useless so moving on. YAY for legal issues in second... again moving on... yes, we need to hydro tanks, loctite not recommended... why, every tank i've ever owned has had loctite, worked fine, and the hydro tester didn't complain. Over stressing the neck of the cylinder, well, unless I'm mistaken loctite doesn't harden stronger than steel or fiberglass, so it's seal will break before anything on the reg or bottle does... unless this type of tank has something wrong with it that we're not being told...? (btw i don't check back on my posts too often, so don't bother replying hoping to clear anything up... two separate bottles apparently blew off their regs... you don't put on or suggest loctite = somethings faulty = no fuel tank will be purchased in my area)

But for everyone else who sees this after this... please tell them why it's advised you -- "Do NOT put thread locking compound on the reg". what adverse reaction will happen / could happen?
   

JJBrookshire Friday, October 28th, 2005 | 7:23 pm PST
Two points:
#1 The recommendation to not use a thread locking compound comes from the cylinder makers.

#2 After contacting the individuals relaying stories of cylinders that "blew off their regs", it turns out that this did not happen. The one that started this thread actually involved a cylinder that unscrewed from the regulator after the cylinder was nearly empty and the cylinder completely emptied without any launch.
   

Ballinvincent Thursday, November 17th, 2005 | 8:40 pm PST
is this tank light?
   

g murder Wednesday, November 30th, 2005 | 4:49 pm PST
That's ^ what I want to know....is the tank light?
   

dudewitELECTRA Wednesday, April 26th, 2006 | 4:25 pm PST
Is it carbon fibre???
   

rustilldown_7 Sunday, July 9th, 2006 | 7:11 pm PST
I heard that is is carbon fiber but also has other composets.
   

bunkrlad Friday, July 6th, 2007 | 1:40 am PST
i have had this tank for about 6 months now and it is the lightest tank for 68/4500 ive ever used, im not sure what the material is but the black looks sicker than any other fibre wrapped tank out there
   

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