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elrodvoss Friday, September 23rd, 2005
Period of
Product Use:
3 months8 of 9 people found this review helpful.

Paintball
Experience:
2 years
Similar
Products Used:
Tippmann 98
Zeus G2
WSP
PTX
Marker Setup: See-through Riser
SpecialOps Longbow 20-shot Magazine
SpecailOps Longbow Qloader attachment
Qloader
E-trigger
1x Red Dot Scope
Custom Modified Stock
Recommended
Upgrades:
Stock
RIS Sling
Qloader (my preference)
Strengths: Durable
Stock Delrin Bolt
Good Alternative to Tippmann 98/98C
Very easy to Strip
Weaknesses: Heavier then standard Marker
Stiff Trigger Pull
Feed Neck on top
Likes Large Bore Paint
Review: I was one of the 1st people to receive the WSF.

My 1st impression of this marker was: Damn.

Picking it up, I relized why it came with a foregrip already. Being that it is made with thick Alum, it is alot heavier then your standard Spyder or other popular paintball marker. I would say that its maybe 25%-50% heavier then a 98C. To most speedballers out there, the weight is a deal breaker, but I know that it would be just as durable as a Tippmann 98/98c. Unless you swing this marker around by the barrel and hit a tree with it, you wont hurt it. Even if you do, you will just snap off the barrel.

I completely took it appart, like every little piece, since I was one of the 1st and wanted to show an exploding view of the marker. Being a blow-back valve design, you cant really screw this thing up. If you cannot understand a blow-back, you really shouldnt be playing paintball.

As for striping and cleaning, all you do is hold the back knob where the adjuster is and remove the strip pin (the adjuster is under spring tension). Then just pull on the cocking knob and then the cocking knob, bolt, connecting pin, striker, buffer, and spring all come out in 1 motion. Since the bolt is delrin the only thing that needs oil is the orings on the striker, but you can look for delrin orings to make it "almost" maintance-free, as you will no long need to oil the striker, but general cleaning and inspection is always good for any marker.

To put back together, just reverse the motion. Like I said before, if you dont understand a blow-back, you shouldnt be playing paintball. Its too simple to mess up.

The marker has RIS rails all over it:
One on the bottom (being used for the foregrip
One on each side of the body
One long down the spine of the marker.
This will give you almost unlimited options to use accessories.

Now the disadvantages:
The WSF really only like large bore paint (0.689 or bigger). If you use smaller, you will get dbl shots as the balls slip past the detent. Even though I have gotten DBL and Multi balls, I have yet to chop a ball. I believe that is because the cocking knob is attached to the bolt by way of a sliding spring. So the cocking knob does not move when you are firing, but because of this "spring" I believe that is acts like a type of "anti-chop", but this is only my opinion and it was not designed this way.

The feed neck is a vertical one with a adjustable turning clamp. So it will fit and adjust to any hopper out there, but I dont like vertical feed necks. I would have perfered a 90* or a side feed like the tippmann. My way around this was I bought the SpecialOps LongBow magazine system and intergraded it with my qloader. This option allowed me to mount a scope on top and keep with the more traditional style of realism. Of course this costs more money, so an average user can just aim down the side or mount their red-dot on the side RIS rails.

The WSF comes with a DBL trigger, which is kinda pointless, since the trigger pull is stiff. There is no way you could walk the trigger in the factory setup. At this current time there is no option for a single trigger, but I know you can get one. I am currently using the E-trigger. If you like to Mod and Tinker with your markers, it would be an easy mod to clip the trigger spring to make the pull less, but being a blow-back system, 14-15 BPS is about your limit, and the WSF was not designed as a "speedball" marker.


Now in regards to sparda14 review I would like to submit these 2 posting he placed in the Armotech Forum on 8/30/05 under the name of Sparda:

Post One:
Thanks
I adjusted the detent to the smallest possible, working size, filled my revy full and waisted paint as fast as i could. not one break. what led me to believe it was the detent was the fact that when i would squeege the barrell, the paint was mostle around the threaded end. it was just that my detent came adjusted as tight as it could be. i have a new found love for my wsf, now lets see an e-trigger

Post Two:
Ill do that, thanks for the help. On a side note i shot a 98 custom...god how i couldent wait to get my hands back on my WSF. 98 is fine and all...but the WSF is better in everyway(kick accuracy durability and even price).

So Ill let you desided on your about the merit of his "review", since in less then a month he has flip-flopped from having issues, getting them fixed and loving the WSF, to HATEING it.

If you want pictures of my current setup, just sent me a request and I will post them in the PBReview/Armotech forum.


Conclusion: The WSF is designed to be a replacement for the 98C/98 as a entry-level marker and rental gun. So it is designed to take a beating, be simple to fix, and easy to maintain.

It met each one of these goals with flying colors.

With the RIS options, it will give you the flexability to add whatever accessories you will need.

Currently there are no "upgrades" for the marker, but with an above average barrel, stock derlin bolt, and stock foregrip, there is not alot more you would want to do with it unless you were like me and like to "mod" your markers.

Rating:
9 out of 10
 

Review Comments
Cradle Of Zeus Wednesday, April 26th, 2006 | 11:22 am PST
where'd u get the longbow 20 shot magazine? Awsome review btw im planning to buy a wsf and i already have a wsp which works amazing, one thing though, u said "Being a blow-back valve design, you cant really screw this thing up" but yet ive heard alot of things that the wsf falls apart after a couple of hundred rounds, "The bolt assembly falls apart. Other than that the gun is solid. Out of 45 WSFs we have had 100% failure rate. We received newer upgraded parts and have had 100% failure rate." by devil mountain sports. http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=1503507 and the review below even says it messed up. Plz reply and enlighten me on this issue
   

elrodvoss Thursday, April 27th, 2006 | 4:50 am PST
The longbow system is from this website:

http://www.specialopspaintball.com/

Just search for longbow and you will see all the options.
As for the 100% failure rate, I have never seen or heard of this issue. The only issue I had was a bad detent which was replaced.

From the posting that I saw, I can see what was happening. When you remove the entire bolt, the metal shaft that connects the cocking piece to the delrin bolt screws together. It could be possible for that to come appart since it is just screwed in there, but the application of "blue" loc tight would keep it from comming loose.

Personaly I would NEVER use "red", due to the fact that you have to apply heat if you ever needed to remove it.

Ive put maybe a case and half of paint though mine and havent had any issue.

   

Cradle Of Zeus Saturday, April 29th, 2006 | 3:59 pm PST
thanks, i just bought my wsf today and it works great, iono the 100% failure thing was all about, i guess it was a thing of care. it truly is amazing anywayz thanks
   

Cradle Of Zeus Monday, May 1st, 2006 | 7:17 pm PST
do i need a q-loader for it? and how does the longbow magazines work?
   

Cradle Of Zeus Monday, May 1st, 2006 | 7:20 pm PST
and if u have show me the pic of YouR Wsf
   

Donster 125 Monday, October 16th, 2006 | 4:28 am PST
Must i jerry-rigg anything to this marker if i buy the longbow magazine system, or can i just buy it and attach it? Secondly what threads does this gun take. Im curious cause i need a back up gun , but i love the longbow. Thirdly, can you posts pics of you gun? GREAT REVIEW!
   

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