Tippmann A5, 98, ProLite, 'Cocker, AT-85, couple of pumps.
Bare Bones. No red dot, no M-4 carrying handle, I'm not a fan of cosmetic goo-gaws. This thing is heavy enough as it is. I'm a little leery of the e-trigger. I hear they're tough to keep adjusted. Only add-on I've got is my Qloader.
The last guy was right, that stock is a little flimsy. I'd like to see an aftermarket stock that's a little sturdier. Or maybe a plug to put in it's place so you can go without a stock at all.
Only thing I'd recommend a sling. First day out with mine, I made the mistake of hauling it around a scenario game all day without one. Ugh.
Machined, all metal construction is Rock Solid
Long range, flat trajectory, accuracy.
Balance isn't great -- Waaay front heavy.
A couple of questionable engineering choices.
Ok, first a little back story for those that don't already know about where these things came from; This marker used to be made under the name "Warsensor" (what does that mean anyway?), and sold with the model name "WS-66". By all accounts, WS made a good product, but as far as marketing and selling that product went, they're a bunch of straight-up clowns. I went everywhere trying to find a WS-66. I placed orders with 3 different dealers and had to cancel them all because Warsensor couldn't get their act together long enough to fill their orders. Fortunately for me, a new company called MILTEC stepped in to try to clear up these distribution problems . Seems they made a deal with the manufacturers of WS parts to sell the same guns under the new company name as the MT-66. About 2 weeks after I found MILTEC, I had my new marker. Now WS, what made that so hard for you? Fine, dorks. Now MILTEC has my money.
When I first took the marker out of the box, I was a little concerned. It was shipped with some of the parts (the RIS and barrel extension) not completely tightened on the gun. The barrel extension especially -- it rattled around during transit and the set-screws scraped some pretty good gouges in the barrel. It was only cosmetic damage, so I didn't really care. The second thing that kind of cheesed me off was the MILTEC sticker that was pasted on the upper receiver, or more specifically, what was underneath it. My gun must have been built from leftover Warsensor parts. As such, the receiver came from the manufacturer with the WS logo stamped into it. MILTEC can't sell the gun with the WS logo, so their answer was to FILE IT OFF and paste a sticker over the top of it to cover the giant gouge that the process left on the receiver. Jeez guys, could you have come up with a better solution than that? Again, this was just a cosmetic flaw. As long as it performs, I don't really care. Hopefully, that won't be an issue as soon as the WS stock gets used up.
Sound like I'm down on this gun? No way. Performance is what counts for me, and that's where this gun really shines.
What really sold me on this marker was the promises made about the hop-up barrel. It's supposed to give you the range and flat trajectory of Tippmann's Flatline barrel with better accuracy. I also use an A5 Flatline, and as far as accuracy goes my MT-66 owns it. I was able to plant shot after shot onto the tip of a 3 inch wide clothes-line pole at over 50 feet. When I missed, it wasn't by much. The 66 also gets the same flat trajectory as the Flatline. No more of having to lob balls up through tree limbs to squeeze out a little more range. All season long I've had a lot of success being able to keep ppl at arms length with that extra flat range. Without that barrel this looks like a pretty typical open bolt, stacked tube semi (albeit a very sturdy one). With the barrel, it's really something special.
What really freaked me out was the effect that broken paint had on accuracy -- little if any at all! I was using old paint, so I broke a ball or two, but they kept coming out just as straight as they had before, even though the bore was covered with paint! Anybody else notice this? If I break paint, I can finish the game nice and accurate and worry about cleanup later. I really didn't expect that. Remember my clothes-line pole? Still able to hit it just fine even with paint in the barrel. Any paint at all in my flatline and I won't be able to hit someone 10 feet in front of me -- the shots go absolutely anywhere but straight. Not the case with my MT for some reason. (?)
I also really like the stock trigger group. Trigger pull is crisp and light. Rate of fire was pretty impressive for a mechanical gun. My A-5 trigger is a little mushy compared to this one. The cross-bolt safety was a little small for me and it's hard to tell if it's on or off through a pair of gloves. I might have preferred a thumb safety over this, but this one never interferes with function. I love the formed sticky-grip. Very comfy.
The most finicky thing about the gun has to be the bolt and it's o-rings. You have to use synthetic oil on it. Natural oil will make the orings will swell and you'll get recock problems. I'm going to invest in the o-ringless delrin bolt.
I've had no problems with reliability as a result of construction or design. The only time it the gun took me out of a game was when my Qloader broke paint in the breech. I started getting the "burp/no recock" problem, and when I opened the gun up the reason became apparent; there was paint smeared all over the bolt. The problem cleared up as soon as I got the bolt cleaned and hasn't come up again since. This is something that might not be a problem at all with the delrin bolt.
There is one thing that worries me about long term longevity; the barrel retention screw. It's the screw that clamps the receiver down around the the barrel and keeps it in place. There seems to be a lot of stress where the barrel connects, especially with a Qloader mounted to the RIS, so the temptation is to really tighten that retention screw down hard. But if you tighten it too much and strip the threads the gun will be useless and I'm not so sure there's a way to fix it -- not easily anyway. I've used it all season and there hasn't been any problem. The receiver is solid as all get-out though. It may be nothing to worry about.
One other thing ppl ought to be careful of; The RIS and barrel extension are kept in place on the barrel with set-screws. That barrel isn't all that thick in places. I'm a little worried that I might dimple the inside of the barrel if I overtighten those set-screws. That would probably mean bad accuracy and broken paint. I was able to get the screws nice and snug with no problems, but if somebody got carried away they might damage the barrel.
I was impressed with the construction. It looks to me like everything is machined from solid -- no pressed/stamped parts that I can see. The fake magazine strikes me as kind of goofy, and it definitely adds weight. It's just as solid as the rest of the gun though, and it seems to protect the braided steel air hose leading into the gun so I decided to leave it on.
Disassembly takes a little time and a couple of simple tools, all of which were included with my gun. Reassembly isn't easy the first couple of times you try it. You have to line up the bolt with the striker and shove a retaining pin down through the both of them just right or it won't go together properly. I got it down pretty easily after a couple of times. It just takes practice.
It had a few flaws, but so what? Mine delivered where it counts -- performance. It shoots longer and more accurately than anything I've used before. It's been reliable under some hard use all season long, and with no more maintenance than any other gun I've ever used. Sure it wasn't perfect, it had a few cosmetic dings, but performance and reliability more than made up for it. I'm giving it a 9.0
One other thing; I saw that Warsensor was warning people off of MILTEC as a "lookalike" brand.
From the Warsensor website;
*"While the products produced by MILTEC look similar to Armotech and War Sensor products they are not." *
What a big, stinking, steaming Load.
Remember my "Warsensor" logo problem? They're the same parts from the same manufacturers. It's the same gun, just distributed by a competent business.
And No, I don't work for MILTEC. I just bought an excellent gun from them, that's all.
9 out of 10
Last edited on Monday, December 5th, 2005 at 6:19 am PST
I know the people at some of paintball online's actual stores. paintballonline sorta bought the company, but not entirely. they have the exclusive distributorship for this. they also own the brand Core. the core ZX pistols are identical to the PT JR pistols, and made by the same ppl too. thier paint used to be horrible but now it is decent.
I think what the deal was is that warsensor didn't make their own stuff and ticked off their manufacturer, who made a new deal with xtremez.com/paintballonline.com/ core (all one company. the owner started it when he was 15 out of his mom's basement & had the first online paintball store he is about 27 now and rich)
PS these things take Sheridan VM 68 type threads. Paintball online just produce a ton of new barrels of various styles for these and I checked them out they looked to have suprisingly good quality. most of them are way longer than what will provide any practical advantage in paintball, but if you are buying a milsim style gun, you are choosing looks over performance anyway. Get a longer barrel and a .50 BMG style muzzle break from specialops dot c o m or is it specops and it would look very good
Last edited on Thursday, November 10th, 2005 at 9:00 pm PST
Nice review, and sounds like a good gun. Im a little sceptic though! Some of the flaws you mentioned could be deathly for that gun, and do they honour a warrenty? Things like this I need to be sure about, and is why I like the A5. Tippmann is happy to help, and warrent their product. You say the gun shoots normal even when their is paint in your barrel!?!?!? This is odd, maybe your barrel is a self cleaning. Is it stock? As long as you dont get to much on the bolt, it will probbably just clean itself when you shoot!
Cool gun, looks awsome, I hope you never have any problems!