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4THDEGREE Friday, November 11th, 2005
Period of
Product Use:
Less than a month29 of 30 people found this review helpful.

2 years
Products Used:
Alias, 2k5'ed Ironman,Classic, Angel Speed
Marker Setup: 06 Empire, Techna trigger, delrin pistons
2k4 Alias, Tadao board, delrin pistons, Critical trigger, Freak 16" barrel kit
2k5'ed Ironman, Frenzy 127.4, AKA SCM III LPR, AKA 2-liter HPR CP Sling Blade trigger, delrin pistons, Orange bolt, Stiffi Switch kit barrel
Strengths: Light, small, no kick, quieter than my other Timmys
Weaknesses: Sharp edges on milling make it hard to clean and swab using a battle swab
Review: A few initial impressions:

First impression upon picking the gun up is both the extremely light feel and the very good balance. I compared it side by side with my daughter's Ion and they are very similar in size and weight.

On the subject of loudness, I would certainly agree that mine is much quieter than my Ironman or Alias. It also is not as quiet as any of the enclosed bolt guns, like the DM's. However I have never been bothered by it one way or the other so take that for what it is worth. It shoots very consistent with the LPR set at 75 psi as recommended.

When shooting the gun, I was extremely surprised at the lack of kick. I am aware that other reviews have stated the gun still has kick. I believe this to be due to the reviewers only shooting with reballs. using paintballs, there is no kick. when switching to ramping, I expected there to be some rise of the barrel, but it shot extremely stable. It was very easy to put ball on ball, even during ramping. Once the trigger is properly adjusted, I was able to set the debounce to 2 and mbounce to 0 with no trigger bounce.

After getting back from the field, I stripped it down and re-greased everything and cleaned it from head to toe. It is critical to be familiar with the new manual when re-assembling the new internal valving including the new design cup seal/poppet. I also found it nearly impossible to use a Redz battle swab to clean out the gun as the pointed portion around the back area of the bolt snags miserably. This was solved easily by using a pull though instead.

I do find the shortened body does take a bit of getting used to when shooting. When I get in a tucked position with a 45/45 tank on, the bolt seems to only be about 2 inches from my mask. Big change from the more stretched out feeling of my Ironman ( which I have been using the most up 'til now). On another side of the compact feel of the gun overall, I found the trigger guard to have plenty of space for my fingers to comfortably walk the trigger with gloves on when shooting in Semi. I also found the much lighter feel of the gun to seem a bit unbalanced and back heavy when using a 68/4500 and the Stiffi barrel on. That being said, I did find it to have a perfectly balanced feel with the 45/4500 on it. Makes me want to replace my Reloader B with a lighter hopper. Feels featherweight when trying to break for the 50.

I am just amazed at the improvement in this gun. One of the comments I heard initially was that this was like all the other Timmys but without kick (paraphrased). Well since I have always loved the way my other Timmys have worked, I would like to say that this latest improvement or refinement has just made them that much better.

I would like to add one comment on the grip frame. Early on, Ripper Machinist had to defend the hook on the bottom for the built in rail. Once I put my CP Sling Blade on, I found the grip to be much more comfortable than either my Alias or the 2k5 frame on my Ironman. It is certainly the most comfortable gun to hold and shoot that I have owned. My thanks to all those involved in the design and production as I truly love this gun.
Conclusion: If you can afford this gun, I would recommend it without any reservations. To date, this is the best Bob Long product I have owned.
10 out of 10

Review Comments
jerseyboy1969 Sunday, April 23rd, 2006 | 1:49 pm PST
Ok well on the maker setup you said that u have a 06 empire but this is not the empire review

jerseyboy1969 Sunday, April 23rd, 2006 | 1:50 pm PST
Ok well on the maker setup you said that u have a 06 empire but this is not the empire review

Reepers Friday, June 2nd, 2006 | 12:25 pm PST
Originally posted by jerseyboy1969
Ok well on the maker setup you said that u have a 06 empire but this is not the empire review

hey budy calm down. they are basically the same gun. Just the barrel and board are differnt.

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