04 Immortal Viking - Quest is lighter, thinner, smaller, quieter and I can shoot faster with it for some reason.
DM4/5/C - The Quest has a smaller proflie and is MUCH lighter. I love the DM design and function as well as their lack of kick. Now if you can believe it, the Quest has even LESS kick !
Egos -The Quest is about the same height but lighter and has far less kick than the Ego.
Blue Quest (in the pics)
16" Stiffi Switch Kit and Freak
Maybe a differant reg. The stock reg has the input nipple placed high on the reg.
NO kick !
The reg (but thats miniscule. You don't notice it after awhile)
I am going to basically 'cut-and-paste' the review I did on PBNation . If anyone has questions, feel free to ask them here or on the Nation.
I'm not going to expand on the finer points ovenmitt made already . He did a great review.
"Ok. I ended up getting the marker a day earlier than expected. I also brought two of my friends along to get their first impressions.
Opened the box and was amazed by the great anno job. Absolutely flawless.
Unfortunatley we changed our team jerseys next year to Blk/Red. But I digress.
The milling as well is flawless and even. Both inside and out. I handed it immediatley to my buddy Wayne and the first words out of his mouth were," Man this thing is light!" My buddy Dave and I both had to agree. Easiest the lightest I have personally felt, so it lives up to that 'hype'.
The first thing I didn't like and noticed right away was the high placement of the air input nipple on the HPR . It sits right where your thumb and index finger meet. It shouldn't be a problem cause I was thinking of putting a black 2Litre on it later to accent the gun. However after a few minutes of holding the gun, it didn't seem to bother me at all.
So when I got home the first thing I did was put my 68/45 Legionnaire tank on as well as my 16" Stiffi barrel. The thing balances on one finger just like in Ovenmitts pic. Amazing !
Next I turn on the air and marker and turn the eyes off. Sweet sassy molassy !!! This thing rips fast quick streams without me having a chance to get used to the trigger or do any adjustments. In all honesty I'm not the fastest on triggers, but this thing was really easy. I mean REALLY easy.
Another thing was that although I was only shooting air; there was no kick. None. Zilch, Nodda, Zip. Nothing !!!
If you couldn't hear the air coming out of the barrel, you would think that you were just playing around with the trigger without a tank hooked up. Even the Dms that I've shot you can feel some semblence of kick.
After I shot a 1000psi out of my tank I decided to take out the bolt. I had to laugh and my first thought was, " Thats it? " I looked inside to make sure....Yup. Thats it. 2 pieces. Stunning to say the least and no inner O-rings like the Dye guns. I just laughed and screwed the bolt back in. I would like to see Hybrid make a Bolt Guide as an add-on so you wouldn't need the allen key but thats a non-issue.
Final words for today are this -
ABSO-F'n-LUTLEY BRILLIANT !
Everything that this company has said is not blown out of proportion. The previous reviews have been completely true and honest. Everybody has their doubts, but after today I am a convert . So far it looks like my beloved Immortal will be spending a lot more time in my gear bag. Sorry to say but it's true. I will also be going down to get my business license so that I will be able to distribute this marker to my teammates and others in my area. I have NO DOUBT in my mind that once people see these guns for themselves, word is going to spread and FEP is going to have a hard time keeping up with production. "
*Edit* Second part of review.
I went to the field yesterday and the weather was clear but cold. Below freezing for sure. There was a thick frost covering everything and was perfect to put the gun through some tests that most people will never play in.
If I HAD to play in this weather, I'd use my pump gun. Not a semi, for the fear of major choppage at high speeds. Keep in mind, that there are not going to be any tournaments held outside in below freezing conditions. As I stated earlier there were some issues.
The 'issues' I had were really not the guns fault. Keep in mind that this is -1 to -3*C weather. I had eight or more people at the field dry fire a tanks worth of air ( 68/45 ), to the point where the barrel was frozen. When we aired it up again, the bolt wouldn't cycle. I figured that the cold had hardned the lube up, so I wiped the bolt down and improvised a bit. I used a few drops of AKA lube and a bit of Matrix lube to make a thinner lubricant for the O-rings. Put the bolt back in and she hummed. We walked to the chrono, did some tests, and then let everybody else fire. 840 shots later with semi auto as well as uncapped NXL ramping used, and not a barrel break.
I had to relube the bolt two more times because we fired another 4000 rounds through it.
The next 'problem' I encountered was not the guns fault either. My buddy had dropped a bag of paint and it wasn't until after the fact that we realized a broken ball had made it into the loader. The broken paint had blocked the eyes on the Halo, which led to a breech break. I actually changed the Halo batteries thinking they were dead, instead the eyes were blocked.
The final 'problem' was this. I had been keeping all the paint in the cab of the truck, however our last 500 I had forgotten on the ground at the chrono station for about 45 minutes. But regardless I put them in the hopper to test it.
The barrels (stock, ultralight, and stiffi) were not as big bore as I would have liked them to be ( 691, 692) in conditions like this and the barrel breaks were plenty with this batch of 'frozen' paint. Notice I said [B][I][U]barrel[/U][/I][/B] not breach. The only other breach break was when I had forgotten the Halo was almost empty and didn't have enough pressure on the stack in the feedneck.
The gun fired like a champ all day.
The chrono readings with the stock barrel were very good considering that the reg isn't broken in yet. Readings were 282,284,283,291,285,283,287, 284. The occasional jump of +7 to +9 were noticed, but thats to be expected with a new reg. So in all fairness the reg was very impressivley consistant for being brand new.
I had noticed that while shooting no paint that there is no kick.However after shooting paint through it, that it is comparable to that of my friends DM4. I imagine that once the regs are broken in, that you could lower the LPR and reduce that even further. A good sign.
The accuracy with the stock barrrel was ball on ball all day. Even with the barrel breaks, they seemed to clean themselves out after a few shots, then it was ball on ball once again.
I've been playing PB for 16 years now. I've shot almost every gun that has hit the market, and this is the best I have seen. FEP has essentially taken the best features of the high end tourney guns and put them into one Ultimate marker.
If you can buy only one gun; buy this.
The Quest gets a perfect 10.
FEP went on a quest to design the perfect marker, and they have done it.
If you have no money; sell the markers you have right now and buy this. You will not regrett it.
10 out of 10
Last edited on Sunday, December 18th, 2005 at 12:00 pm PST
I checked last week but didn't see it available yet so I checked again last night and Ovenmitt beat me to it. I'm taking her out to the field in a few hours. I hope to get video to post on PBN as well as give my impressions of firing paint through it.
Check back again today or tommorow for an update.
also ask him if hes going to allow customer ordering from customers, or dealers. Shop i goto, hes going to try and become a dealer. But i want to get a custom ordered one. Pewter with dust black accents. And see how much it would be :P
hi guys i play at the quests home field urban quest. i see the owner of fep all the time and i just bought a gun from on a nice discount. the review is totally accurate most amazing gun i have ever shot i liked it more then the dm6 but lol thats me it as light as they get and amazingly simple to clean yet shoots ripping speedds of 23 bps and is the most accurate gun ever. the stock barrel is crazy it outshot my freak and ultralite easy!!!
MSRP is going to be $925. Cheaper and WAY better than the Proto, DMs, and Shockers. IMHO. I have NOT shot a DM6 yet so I won't comment on that comparison, however from the people that I've heard that own both ( only 2 people so far ), have ended up selling their DM6s and keeping their Quests. The first shipments should be going out first or second week of January.
if the name could be different. It'd have to be "gods B!tch slap" bc it B-slaps all other guns across the field. But then again, they'd get a lawsuit by the religious people... just like saying god in the pledge :P
quote:Originally posted by ghost271 MSRP is going to be $925. Cheaper and WAY better than the Proto, DMs, and Shockers. IMHO. I have NOT shot a DM6 yet so I won't comment on that comparison, however from the people that I've heard that own both ( only 2 people so far ), have ended up selling their DM6s and keeping their Quests. The first shipments should be going out first or second week of January.
Its the same price as the Proto M6, which one would u say GET? Their the same weight (roughly) and fire at same speeds (when adjusted on board)
now i can't decide... 06 "the Gat"... or this. Although I sure would love to not have to build my entire gun, could just alter my bolt a tad to fit it in this body as a test bed, probably won't work though lol. Hmm, but yes, very nice review, going to have to sell my old ones before I buy anything new so only time will tell. To FEP, keep up the good work, the simplicity design is very sweet.
well if the pm6 is about the same or atleast pretty close to this gun im definitly getting it because i found a site (a reliable one too) that only sells the pm6 for 724.99 an amazing deal in my opinion
Thats a good deal for sure. However after using the Quest, there is no way Im going to go back to having to deal with the amount of o-rings that are in a DYE gun again. I held a couple friends DM6's yesterday and the felt much heavier and back heavy than our Quests. I also have large hands and the UL frame feels way to small to me. You will notice as well that the Quest has a smaller profile than both the PM/DM6s.
Your call but I'd spend the little bit extra and get the Quest.