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umiotoko Sunday, January 1st, 2006
Period of
Product Use:
Less than a month9 of 9 people found this review helpful.

Paintball
Experience:
More than 5 years
Similar
Products Used:
Umm, a hopper?
Marker Setup: A-5, RT, Flatline, 14" J&J Ceramic, tactical stock, LPK, HPA, Palmer stab. Palmer Blazer on order.
Strengths: You can fire the marker in any position, very low profile without the stock hopper.
Weaknesses: Requires permanent modifications to the A-5.
May not hold up well to extreme abuse.
Review: The long awaited A-5 Q-loader adapter was released on Nov 27th, and I ordered the kit the same day.

Unfortunately there's not much documentation on the AIC web site for this yet, so here's some more details.

* After removing the Cyclone feeder and piston, you pull the banjo fitting and put the included plug into the hole. This seals the Cyclone feeder air supply since you don't need it any more.

* If you have the Response Trigger installed you'll need the original (right angle banjo fitting) again. You can't use the Q-loader adapter with the stock LPK, unless you want to get really creative trying to mount the base and hose. You can use the Springer paintball custom LPK, or do this mod yourself though.

* In order to install this adapter, you have to break off the feeder arm (near the breach) and the 2 locking pins for the Cyclone feeder. This is a permanent and irreversible modification to the marker. You can however order a new right receiver half from Tippmannparts.com to reverse the change out.

* The mounting bracket is attached to the marker through the screw hole that held the cyclone feeder. It's removeable for cleaning, but would be a little tough to do in the field.

* The Q-loader base unit replaces the front handle on the A-5. If you like the handle, then the base unit will feel really strange in your hand, at least at first.

* The hose angle is a little tricky on the A-5. Basically, you will probably want the feeder hose to be as short as possible to present the smallest target handing off the side of your marker. That's fine, but if the hose angle is too tight the balls won't flow evenly. If the hose develops a kink, or is bumped too hard during play you'll have feed problems, so start out with a longer hose and test under fire before getting too serious about reducing the profile. By dropping the hopper off the top, your marker profile is waaaay smaller anyway.

* My single largest concern with this adapter is the strengh. Basically you have a fixed plate that mounts to the side of the marker, then a 90* elbow that rotates loosely where it attaches. (The hose then attaches to the 90* elbow and runs to the base unit.

The 90* elbow is held in place on the bottom with a small allen screw that rides in a channel on the elbow. It's held on the top with a small protruding tab. On mine this tab broke even before I had the kit mounted to my marker. I called AIC and they rushed a replacement out to me and I successfully mounted it without issues. I'll call this a one-off, except it does illustrate that this mounting system is a weak point. If it broke in the field you'd be out of play for the remainder of the day (or digging for electric tape in your toolbox). I could see this elbow getting bashed about, especially if you play woodsball.

BTW, AIC tech support rocks. They sent a replacement part out at no charge.

* Don't forget to manually put paintballs into the feeder tube before attaching the first loaded Q-pod, otherwise the pressure will create strawberry jam in your feed tube.






Conclusion: So, I give the Q-loader A-5 kit a 8/10 rating. It's relly kewl to have the Q-loader on the A-5 and shoot the marker while holding it sideways (zero profile) around a bunker. You'll have to get used to the pods and be careful not to bash the thing around too much, but it's worth it for tactical / milsim players like me.
Rating:
8 out of 10
 

Review Comments
Kevin M. Monday, December 18th, 2006 | 7:15 pm PST
Wow... im sorry but that thing looks hidious
   

mjr_paranoid Monday, January 8th, 2007 | 10:42 am PST
So.... you remove the cyclone.
r.i.g.h.t.
Thisseems to be a useless mod. Sell the a-5, get a 98 and use the extra cash on hand for a q-loader if you really want one.
   

Terminator 2 Thursday, January 11th, 2007 | 8:00 am PST
quote:
Originally posted by Kevin M.
Wow... im sorry but that thing looks hidious

It looks very good when mounted to the A5 and gets that large hopper out of the way
   

Terminator 2 Thursday, January 11th, 2007 | 8:12 am PST
quote:
Originally posted by mjr_paranoid
So.... you remove the cyclone.
r.i.g.h.t.
Thisseems to be a useless mod. Sell the a-5, get a 98 and use the extra cash on hand for a q-loader if you really want one.


I have owned both guns with Qloader's and even though a 98 is still a decent gun it is not as good as an A5 nor does the 98c Qloader kit fit or look as good. The A5 cyclone works decent but I like the profile this mod gives the gun.
   

Terminator 2 Thursday, January 11th, 2007 | 8:13 am PST
quote:
Originally posted by Kevin M.
Wow... im sorry but that thing looks hidious

It looks very good when mounted to the A5 and gets that large hopper out of the way
   

yo GIG Wednesday, July 4th, 2007 | 4:28 pm PST
When you go to the Q-loader site, it shows the mounting bracket very close to the tomb stone.... you state you have a Palmer Stablizer, like myself. Can you mount the Q-loader without a problem ?
   

Crossfire426 Wednesday, April 23rd, 2008 | 7:30 pm PST
quote:
Originally posted by Terminator 2


It looks very good when mounted to the A5 and gets that large hopper out of the way


I think ppl purchase the a-5 because of that hopper
i mean seriously the cyclone is what makes or breaks the gun for you... if you like it you buy it, if you don't, you don't. i know so many ppl who didn't buy the gun because of the cyclone.

quote:
Originally posted by Terminator 2
I have owned both guns with Qloader's and even though a 98 is still a decent gun it is not as good as an A5 nor does the 98c Qloader kit fit or look as good. The A5 cyclone works decent but I like the profile this mod gives the gun.

for the most part, isn't it cheaper to upgrade the 98c into an A-5.
Only difference really is the cyclone, cocking pin, and trigger i think.

I guess what i am trying to say is, if you wanted a q-loader in the first place, why replace the entire right reciever and buy another $170+ in upgrades if you can just choose the 98c, upgrade it like crazy as well, and for the most part, make it better than a reg a-5 and buy the qloader itself.

I'm not trying to flame you, I was just thinking myself because i do love the q-loader system, but i thought it would be unnecessary since i pretty much have the a-5, and getting rid of the cyclone would be a big waste. When i saw this product, at first i was excited, but i opted out and got a tech t qpeh upgrade instead.

overall, good review, i agree with you for the most part, but honestly, the cyclone is what made the a-5 different. why change it.
Last edited on Wednesday, April 23rd, 2008 at 7:33 pm PST
   

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