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3022 Saturday, January 14th, 2006
Period of
Product Use:
3 years2 of 2 people found this review helpful.

Paintball
Experience:
3 years
Similar
Products Used:
ZGP-94 (Czech PGP clone), P68SC (Long-barreled PGP with other bolt), PGP-2001
Marker Setup: Old style PGP (many), ZGP-94 (two), PGP-2001, Sterling Bronze (three), P68SC, AGD MiniMag, AGD Automag, Kingmann New Hammer, Spyder Compact (two), Crosmann 3357 Spotmarker
Recommended
Upgrades:
No one really need for good play, but you can do lot for it:

Locking of grips together with black electrician tape
Locking feed tube cap (there's a little hole in) to pump rod with whipcord
Polished internals & barrel honing
New bolt (similar to Speed Daemon Bolt)
Wedgits
Little Valve work (for better air flow) or brand new custom (late autococker style) valve body
Lightened stock hammer (from stock 43g you can go to 15g) and new valve/hammer spring
Instant pierce, new valve pin and Back Flow valve
Oversized CO2 change knob or 3,5oz C/A or remote or integral refilable tank instead 12g
Rear cap velocity adjuster
New pump handle (Cooper T nasty pump, or better own custom PTFE pump handle)
Holster & ten round SC tubes
Tritium tree dot adjustable sights?
Small red dot?
Strengths: Cheap
Small & compact
Very well made and durable
Good accuracy & range
Good CO2 efficency
Weaknesses: No ball detent
Small magazine & Powerlets
Cleaning take lot time
Non-removable barrel
Plastic grips
Review: If you like a challenge, then THIS is the marker for you. It's limited in range and firepower (like everyone pistol), but surprisingly accurate, and its size and robustness make it perfect for running, jumping, dodging, sliding, climbing, snapshooting or anything that you need to do in game to get your oponent.

Maybe this is not the type of gun what you want if you charge into the front line, but it's a good fun/learning gun. Great for someone who wants to learn how to play better. The perfect weapon for close range stealth kill. The slower rate of fire and limited ammo will teach you many lessons on the battlefield. With PGP you can't simply stand up and shoot. You will have to learn how to stalk your prey, use cover and obstances, remaining hidden untill they make a mistake and give you a chance for one accurate shot. It's not a tourney gun, but in the hands of experienced player it can waste anyone with any gun.

If you are big or fat, P68SC is a better choice for you - it has better long-range capabilities. But if you are small and quick, get a PGP and you will be able to get to places where no one would expect. You were not permanent winner, but respected player for others and the most feared for the electros owners on the field. As many before says, this thing really makes you better player.

With fresh CO2 you have in PGP a pocket sniper gun. With experience, you have submachine gun. In close quarters you have the best gun. You need a lot of practice to effectively use this thing (rock n' cock, lobbing balls, limited paint and gas), but then... it is small, shoots straight and far (for pistol), and with the adrenaline rush during a firefight you can get upon to 2 aimed shots per second. Not bad for a cheap, small, simple and old stock class marker. To be perfect, it need some tinkering work (see above), but even out of the box it is damn good... and after a tune-up it's really deadly. So, as novice, you can easily afford this gun for fun and not very expensive play and later on, you can customize it (the most important upgrades can be done by yourself - they cost nothing) and stay with it - this is the only pistol you will ever need.

Heavily customized Sterling is a better semi-killer, too, but a lot more expensive and big. This gun shoots good and is cheap, durable, small. With this gun you can not just pray and spray, but in large opened areas with cover and hides, as in close quarters, a skilled player who knows its limitation is easy able to compete with semis.

There are two variants of "snub-nosed" PGP - one (pre '96) with old style valve and second (post '96) with new "carriage valve". The new valve has only one opening on diameter (what is a lot better for efficiency) and needs not special tools to be removed. The old style valve can be removed only with special Sheridan valve tool (5/16 inch key), and his valve body with four openings and channel on the diameter is not so efficient, but he has little better potential for performance tuning (central diameter in the valve body can be little larger here). I like the old style valve better, because they allow more alterations, but on other side, I think that the new style valve was good improvement because the marker in stock condition is more efficient with them and his manufacturing is easier (not so much work with the bottom pipe and with mounting) that the old style.



The main weakness of this gun is it's small magazine and powerlets... Its Stock class, sure. The magazine is small, since the entire gun is small. 12g have limited capacity and are expensive. On the other side, the CO2 efficiency is good out of the box (not bad, not perfect - 10 great long-range (260-240 fps) shoots and other 15-20 decent short-shots (~200 fps) from one twelve gram), and you spent so little money on paint using this thing... Later you can tune it (easy gets 40-45 shots beyond 200 fps from one twelve gram) and maybe swith to 3,5/4oz C/A or remote, or integral refilable tank.
Conclusion: This is my favorite gun. Great little marker. The ZGP-94 (Czech PGP clone) or PGP2k have perhaps some minor advantages, but PGP is better out of the box and is a true classic. P68SC is very nice and has better long-range capability, but is a lot bigger (, rare and not so efficient) than this.

If you are looking for your first pump, I would recommend you the PGP... clasic, old, snub-nosed PGP. It's still the most durable and reliable pistol on the market, it is still the best way to get into pump/stock class play. After many, many years, when you choose another gun as primary (some of us will never do it), you will at least have great sidearm/backup/true Stock class/old school gun that will be admired by others.

I give it a 10 because nothing is perfect, but PGP is still the best choice between paintball pistols - they are cheap and good out of the box and extremly deadly after some custom work. The only comparable are Palmer's, with are based on PGP and a lot more expensive.
Rating:
10 out of 10Last edited on Sunday, October 21st, 2007 at 12:28 am PST
 

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