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macdev_cyborg Monday, May 1st, 2006
Period of
Product Use:
Only tested29 of 36 people found this review helpful.

Paintball
Experience:
More than 5 years
Similar
Products Used:
I have used too many guns to list.
Marker Setup: Macdev Cyborg
VL Evlution 2
JJ 10"
Pure Energy 68 3000
Recommended
Upgrades:
Maybe new barrel (stock barrel is pretty good though)
Bolt.
Strengths: See review.
Weaknesses: See review.
Review: I was at my local field a few days ago and my friend had just bought this gun off Action Village and he let me test it out.
This gun would probably perform very similar to any mechanical autococker with an Eblade or E-2. Make sure you have a fast loader if you plan on getting this gun.

STREGNTHS:
-Very reliable
-Accurate
-Simple
-Easy to clean
-Very fast
-All the shooting modes
-Very effecient with air
-Never chops.

WEANESSES:
-Needs a new bolt
-King of heavy with everything on it (compared to my Borg)
-It's a bit long, I recommend a drop forward and maybe a shorter barrel,

This gun is very similar to the original mechanical Trilogy Competition, except it's electronic and much faster.
You might find that the trigger takes a while to get used to.
I would take this over the Ion any day.
Conclusion: I think this marker deserves a 9 out of 10.
Rating:
9 out of 10Last edited on Tuesday, June 6th, 2006 at 2:58 pm PST
 

Review Comments
012345 Monday, June 12th, 2006 | 3:04 pm PST
How Many bps does this gun shoot?
   

paintballman330 Friday, June 23rd, 2006 | 2:21 pm PST
18 bps
   

coshaben Saturday, July 8th, 2006 | 3:23 pm PST
Ion can still be more upgraded then this cocker.....it can be a lot better I'd take the ion over this gun and plus its like $60 cheaper
   

AuxiliaryPie Wednesday, July 26th, 2006 | 6:34 pm PST
quote:
Originally posted by coshaben
Ion can still be more upgraded then this cocker.....it can be a lot better I'd take the ion over this gun and plus its like $60 cheaper

you mother fu-cker, i cant believe you ION molesters. ITS NOT THAT GREAT!!! half of the world has one, its got eyes, so what ACS is the same tihing only cheaper, 17bps is slow, and OMG its not a blowback!!! who gives a shi,t!!! that means you cant handle the recoil of a real marker.
   

Iram Thursday, July 27th, 2006 | 8:19 pm PST
quote:
Originally posted by coshaben
Ion can still be more upgraded then this cocker.....it can be a lot better I'd take the ion over this gun and plus its like $60 cheaper

That's ok. For an extra $70, I'd go for the Trilogy over the Ion. It's a bit more unique on most fields, and performs just as well without a lot of big plastic parts to keep the cost down.

As for upgrades, you can replace the ram, trigger frame, grips, inline regulator, pneumatic regulator, barrel, bottomline, ram, feed neck, bolt, back block, beavertail, valve, and timing rod. There's not much reason to as it all works fine stock, but if you really felt the need to spend a lot of money, you can.

EDIT: If you decide to put a eblade on this, you can upgrade the trigger too.
EDIT2: Oh, and if you go that route, you can also replace the solenoid cover. The pull pin on the bolt can also be swapped out.
EDIT3: Almost forgot, you can get this "turtled" to save weight also.
Last edited on Thursday, July 27th, 2006 at 8:25 pm PST
   

Purple Monkey 0 Tuesday, August 8th, 2006 | 1:29 pm PST
quote:
Originally posted by AuxiliaryPie


you mother fu-cker, i cant believe you ION molesters. ITS NOT THAT GREAT!!! half of the world has one, its got eyes, so what ACS is the same tihing only cheaper, 17bps is slow, and OMG its not a blowback!!! who gives a shi,t!!! that means you cant handle the recoil of a real marker.



Niether are your precious cockers what crap is so great about your freakin autocockers they are nothing compared to the ION it is more like an overpriced suited up spyder with a different cocking sytem.ACS sucks, Eyes are so much better they allow you to chop a heck of alot less than ACS. And the reason that half the world has an ion is because it is better than your cocker,faster than your cocker,cheaper than your cocker,and a lot better looking, not to mention weight without havind to get it turtled for 200$ (the price for an ION) and a little INFO it is HIGH impact polymer stonger than aluminum lighter than alluminum same stuff that is in the U.S military M-16, M-4, AR-15, M1A, Barrett 50, and many other High grade civil and military firearms.
Last edited on Tuesday, August 8th, 2006 at 1:45 pm PST
   

Bawlz Wednesday, August 9th, 2006 | 9:30 pm PST
quote:
Originally posted by Purple Monkey 0



Niether are your precious cockers what crap is so great about your freakin autocockers they are nothing compared to the ION it is more like an overpriced suited up spyder with a different cocking sytem.ACS sucks, Eyes are so much better they allow you to chop a heck of alot less than ACS. And the reason that half the world has an ion is because it is better than your cocker,faster than your cocker,cheaper than your cocker,and a lot better looking, not to mention weight without havind to get it turtled for 200$ (the price for an ION) and a little INFO it is HIGH impact polymer stonger than aluminum lighter than alluminum same stuff that is in the U.S military M-16, M-4, AR-15, M1A, Barrett 50, and many other High grade civil and military firearms.


Ok, first this gun does have eyes, not ACS. This is nothing like a Spyder, as it works completely differently and is closed-bolt. This gun is faster than an ion because 18 bps is faster than 17 bps [do you see how that works?]. Cockers are way more accurate, there is no comparison, and have a crap-load of upgrades. The gun weighs 3 pounds which may be too heavy for you to lift, its a couple ounces more than the ion. Sure the ions $50 cheaper, use that money to buy a decent trigger for it.
   

Dyegunsrock Monday, August 21st, 2006 | 6:03 pm PST
Hey listen, I need a new gun, but im short on cash, 2 questions.
1. Would this be a really good speedball gun for young guns?
2. Can this compete with a shocker?
   

BigGunnedMan Wednesday, October 4th, 2006 | 11:16 am PST
how fast can that shoot in full-auto
   

RealPB Thursday, November 16th, 2006 | 2:03 pm PST
quote:
Originally posted by Iram


That's ok. For an extra $70, I'd go for the Trilogy over the Ion. It's a bit more unique on most fields, and performs just as well without a lot of big plastic parts to keep the cost down.

Unique... Most of you kiddies don'even know what that means...Nothing these days is unique. And further more, nothing mass produced is unique. They are all the same with the same upgrades and parts. No one has anything custom anymore. Not truly custom...

And who cares about speed? Every gun these days are capable of 15+. That's more than what 75% of the paintball population can pull on pure semi. So who cares?

I miss the good ol' days...
   

dkeeler Sunday, December 3rd, 2006 | 2:39 pm PST
quote:
Originally posted by coshaben
Ion can still be more upgraded then this cocker.....it can be a lot better I'd take the ion over this gun and plus its like $60 cheaper

Wow! Are all ion owners that defensive about their guns and that quick to say their gun is better than everyone else's? Because it isn't
Last edited on Sunday, December 3rd, 2006 at 2:40 pm PST
   

NYz own pballer Monday, December 11th, 2006 | 5:11 pm PST
duz ur egg2 keep up w/ ur gun on ramping?
   

wgpmasterah Thursday, December 14th, 2006 | 5:24 pm PST
quote:
Originally posted by Purple Monkey 0



Niether are your precious cockers what crap is so great about your freakin autocockers they are nothing compared to the ION it is more like an overpriced suited up spyder with a different cocking sytem.ACS sucks, Eyes are so much better they allow you to chop a heck of alot less than ACS. And the reason that half the world has an ion is because it is better than your cocker,faster than your cocker,cheaper than your cocker,and a lot better looking, not to mention weight without havind to get it turtled for 200$ (the price for an ION) and a little INFO it is HIGH impact polymer stonger than aluminum lighter than alluminum same stuff that is in the U.S military M-16, M-4, AR-15, M1A, Barrett 50, and many other High grade civil and military firearms.


I just had to reply after seeing this very retarded and self-centered comment. I have a very strong stance with cockers mainly because i was a autococker specialist and I've been playing more than A LOT of these new kids on the field who has only been playing for a year or two.

Wait wait wait...? Which gun has been around longer? Ohhhhhh right, the cocker... oh wait wait... what is the Ion made out of? ohhhh right right... ABS plastic.. just "another" "scientific" way to say plastic. How do I know? Ohhhh wait right... because 1/4 of my chem labs were dealing with "A...B...S... plastic"

To tell you the truth.. it's strong.. but it's not THAT strong compared to ALLLLUUUMINNNUMMM. Plastic, is plastic, it will chip and crack. Just like the whole "I.O.N.." Gun, it will chip, and crack, it's a piece of crap. I HATE how everyone raves about some new gun which is supposibly the best.. When it's NOT.

The cocker is CLOSED BOLT! IT DOES "NOT!" work the same way as ions.. Get the ideaology straight in your immature head. Oh wait you wouldn't know, cause you probably have never "WORKED" with cockers before, or BUILT cockers before.

The purpose of the SF is to have a ergonomical "entry level" of a big beefy Karni or an e2.Oracle, Turtle, etc etc etc and the list goes on.

you ion kids better watch out what you say, that really bursts my bubble.

Ion < e.cocker anytime.. anytime.. ANYtime.

oh yeah one more thing. When I use to be in the business of working with A/C's, you know why not a lot of people liked cockers? CAUSE THEY"RE TOO STUPID TO LEARN ABOUT IT AND WORK ON IT THEMSELVES! that's why they brought it to me :)
   

whiterasta80 Tuesday, March 27th, 2007 | 8:50 pm PST
quote:
Originally posted by RealPB



And who cares about speed? Every gun these days are capable of 15+. That's more than what 75% of the paintball population can pull on pure semi. So who cares?

I miss the good ol' days...


Thank God someone else will say it. Every week I'll get some ion (or matrix) owner laugh at my trilogy (mech), or my eforced Piranha and say that their gun can shoot faster (which is true). Then I'll tell them to prove they can shoot it faster-- rare that anyone does.
   

frumpyman333 Friday, September 19th, 2008 | 10:22 am PST
quote:
Originally posted by RealPB

Unique... Most of you kiddies don'even know what that means...Nothing these days is unique. And further more, nothing mass produced is unique. They are all the same with the same upgrades and parts. No one has anything custom anymore. Not truly custom...

And who cares about speed? Every gun these days are capable of 15+. That's more than what 75% of the paintball population can pull on pure semi. So who cares?

I miss the good ol' days...


i know exactly how you feel. these debates are worse than listening to ford and chevy guys fighting. but most still claim the cocker is out dated....not true. E1 or E2 with the 11/16th MQ2 valve is kinda fun. weird ball characteristics with less recoil but still fun.
   

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