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golfmaster78 Sunday, May 21st, 2006
Period of
Product Use:
3 months0 of 13 people found this review helpful.

More than 5 years
Products Used:
Ego, Vision Shocker, DM6
Marker Setup: Proto M6 with Pure energy 68/45, Dye ultralite, Reponse Ramping board
Strengths: Very quiet, Very Accurate, Very stable
Weaknesses: Tempermental and breaks frequently
Review: The reason I am writing this review is to Rec ballers or new tournament players who think that the PM6 is a Blessing from God and is nothing more than a Dm6 without the ultralite frame and barrel. I have got news for you, this gun is prone to breaking and is very fragile. If you are in to upgrading boards or taking your gun apart, the wiring, especially the ribbon eyes, are increadibly fragile and tend to break or snap if you bend them to much. The eyes inside the gun are tempermental. If they do not line up perfectly, they do not work. The dwell, ROF, and LPR need to be perfectly tuned or else bolt stick (even with the Anti bolt stick on), and shoot down will occur. Now to my horror stories. I have had three, yes three Proto's sent to me by Proto over the past three months. Why? Well the first proto came from the factory with the set screw ground into the LPR, which, when the LPR was adjusted at the factory, caused metal shavings to enter the LPR which could have spelled disaster for the Solenoid. My second gun was sent from the factory with eye problems. Sent it back, again they sent me a new one. The third gun came again with a nick in the bolt from the factory and what do you know, more eye problems. (I am not stupid and did not break the eyes. The way the eyes align is a horrible design because they are based on exact measurements). I am a tournament player and have been for 6 years and know a lot about guns. The PM6 is one of the most exceptionally accurate, quiet and stable guns ever made. The gun does not move when shot. If you are into upgrading eyes and letting other people do your tech work, than it is worth it. I would suggest however having a decent back up.
Conclusion: Good for people who have time and know good techs. Awful for people who can afford only one gun and need a reliable piece of machinery.
5 out of 10

Review Comments
Fontana Monday, May 22nd, 2006 | 10:46 am PST
Wow u obviously got a defected one.. use the warranty and get a new one.. the pm6 is a beast especially with a 14'' ul barrel and ul frame. I have had absolutely 0 problems with mine and it chronos +/- 5. This gun is a perfect score according to price to performance. Don't bring the gun score down because you have a defected one man..

Tbone0423 Monday, May 22nd, 2006 | 2:46 pm PST
also, if ur taking the eyes out, make sure ur unlocking the docking bay for them, they never break as long as u dont stupidly rip them on purpose to test their strength, but yeah, i do wish they came lined with rubber like the dm4, but who cares. As long as they work. Also check to see if ur eyes recognize each other by holding them next to each other. That way u can find out if the lining is correct or if it is the eyes themselves.
You could've just cleaned out the metal shavings and if u say it would've been bad for the solenoid, why didn't u jsut try it. You sent it back it anyway...

The pm6 is a dm6 without the UL frame (and tip). Selfcleaning eyes have made it worse because sometimes the plastic screws with teh eyes. But if u stick a ul frame on a pm6, it is lighter than the dm6 because it doesn't have that on/off integrated into the gun.
Yeah mine leaks once and a while, but u just find the leak, take out teh part, lube the part, put it back in and it is usually fixed.

j-man19 Monday, May 22nd, 2006 | 5:13 pm PST
dont just screw up the whole system cuz u got a defect, it makes ppl not want the gun and lowers the rating!! cuz of u, the rating dropped from like a 9.6 to a 9.4 and that is evil

golfmaster78 Tuesday, May 23rd, 2006 | 11:17 am PST
Actually, I know the eye system very well (EE at Georgia Tech). Anyway, there is something with the alignment of the eyes. I believe that the signal beam from the origin eye is defective and weak...If you take them out and line them up exactly from and inch they work, but inside the gun no such dice. Also, I gave it an average ranking because I have received two straight defective guns from Proto...If you do the math I have had the gun for a total of 68 days. 20 of which spent at DYE or in the mail...That is bad craftsmanship.

baconbits_66 Tuesday, May 23rd, 2006 | 6:15 pm PST
seems liek u dont kno how to take care of your gun... im 13 and my pm6 hasnt broken once( I bought wit my own money so stfu)

golfmaster78 Wednesday, May 24th, 2006 | 7:40 am PST
Well, you see, when both guns come broken from the factory thats not my fault...So know what your talking about before you post an inappropriate comment 13 year old.

JoyKiller21 Friday, May 26th, 2006 | 11:40 am PST
Well, you see, it's called a warranty, I would call you names cos you are outright stupid, but I don't want to get banned.
Send it back to Dye and they will take care of the problem.

Spence_tl-x Monday, August 21st, 2006 | 5:55 pm PST
Seems to me u got a bunch of lemons. Sorry about that. Ive had nothing but good times with my proto.

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