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McDoNaLdSbUrGeR Tuesday, June 6th, 2006
The accuracy of this review is disputed. Please see discussion below.
Period of
Product Use:
Less than a month0 of 1 people found this review helpful.

Paintball
Experience:
2 years
Similar
Products Used:
Smart Parts Ion - more reliable
Smart Parts Shocker - more accurate, not as beautiful
Other High-ends
Marker Setup: Razor Blue SP Ion w/ Blackheart, CCM Feedneck, Evil Detonator Reg, Evil On/Off,
ND Blade Trigger, TechT Lightening Bolt, 32 Degrees Drop, 12 inch Evil Pipe Kit,
Blue Halo B w/Rip Drive.
Black/Blue fade PM6 w/ 14inch total stainless freak kit, Shocktech Micro Drop/rail, Hybrid on/off, Orange Bolt, Top hat mod, CP Sling Blade Trigger, and Virtue Board.
Recommended
Upgrades:
I haven't seen many but maybe an Orange bolt, Ultralight frame, or a board if you like ramping.
Strengths: Light, Fast, Quiet, Accurate, totally sweet looking, easy to clean, and consistant.
Weaknesses: Leaky, not exactly reliable.
Review: Well I finally decided to get a new gun and the PM6 fit my price range and I had heard
good things about it. When I brought it home the first thing I did was take the bolt
out and grease it. I didn't realize that Dye slick lube wasn't very good at the time.
So, I'll start with the good.
The Good:
The first thing I did after I aired it up was dry fire it. Without adjusting the
trigger it is very easy to rip on. I'm guessing 13-16 cps. Then I filled my Halo with
ultra evil and took it outside. The first hopper full was awesome. Quiet, fast, pretty accurate, almost no kick at all, and no chops. I was curious about just how consistant
this gun was, so I decided to chrono it. This thing is consistant. It was +/- 5 over the chrono. Later I did some adjustments to the LPR which made it even better.
I lowered the LPR pressure and it made it quieter and made it kick even less.
The Hyper 2 reg is very easy to adjust. A quarter turn out will increase the velocity
like 15-20 fps. Before I knew that I made the mistake of giving it a full turn out and it
was shooting in the 360's. The stock barrel is pretty accurate but when I got my stainless freak kit the accuracy increased quite a bit. With the stock barrel, my shots
curved to the right over long distances. With the freak, the shots are straight for the entire distance.
The Bad:

Okay, in the time that I've had this gun it hasn't been very reliable.
The first thing that went wrong was the ASA. The tank would screw in but
the knob on the ASA stopped turning out fully so I could never turn off the tank.
That wasn't a huge problem because the store I bought it from replaced it with a
sweet Hybrid On/Off. The next problem that occured was a tiny leak somewhere
from the bolt that I could usually stop by shoot it a few times. That didn't bother me
much as long as I could shoot the leak out.So, my first time with it at my local field
I aired it up and it was fine. My friend asked if he could shoot a hopper of paint through
it. The gun shot flawlessly and he was curious about the bolt design because he was
planning on buying a Minion (same gun with different milling). I let him take the bolt
out and look at it. Of course, the grease came off of the bolt because the was messing
with it. So I put some more Dye slick on it. Then the next problem occured. The bolt
was sticking forward and not letting paint in the breech, and the gun was dropping off
with rapid rates of fire. Another PM6 owner told me that Dye slick lube was too thick
and would cause problems. After I wiped the slick off and put some Evil Pus on it, the bolt stopped sticking but it was still dropping off. I had to mess with the LPR for 10 minutes to fix that problem. Then it shot fine for the rest of the day. Okay, now for the
worst problem of all. I aired it up and air started shooting out from the top of the trigger
and the trigger frame. This leak woudn't stop with just shooting it a few times.
I called Dye and messed with it for an hour and nothing fixed it. Then finally when
I aired it up again, it didn't leak. Maybe it fixed itself? Not exactly. That was a one time
thing. From then on, every time I aired it up I had to shoot out that huge leak.
The last time I aired it up was at team practice and that same leak started but wouldn't
stop no matter what. I think it was the seat under the noid. I had to use my Ion for
that entire day because of a stupid problem with an expensive gun. Right now I dont
have the gun because it's in the shop getting looked at and hopefully fixed.

EDIT: Ok well I figure it's about time I edited my review since I've got some serious playing time in with it since last time. I got all my probs sorted out and put some more ups on it and it works very well now. I've played 2 tourneys with it since my last review and it has performed great both times. It shoots ball on ball, it's still quiet, and easy to rip. Only one prob still occurs and it's pretty simple: The bolt pulls the oring out of the back of the top hat and causes a leak when you gas it up. Not a real prob cause all I have to do is push it back in when I take the bolt out to clean it. Having the Proto max'd makes it comparable to any high end out there. I think now that I've put several cases through it and broke it in that the probs are gradually stopping. I love this gun now that everything works and I've had some serious playing time with it so I'm gonna bump up the score a little.
Conclusion: Well, if you have the money and you dont want to spend 1500 on a paintball gun then
this is a nice choice if you want to risk it. The problems I had were probably just
with mine because I've heard good things about this gun. When the gun works
it's awesome but the frequent problems are very irritating. Maybe it will work when
it gets out of the shop. The good hardly outweighs the bad when it stops me from using
it for days at a time. So it gets a 7 until I find out if I truly want to keep this marker.
EDIT: Probs are sorted out and it rips like any other high end so if you have the $$ and are into Matrices which require a little more oring maintenance than Timmy's and Angels than it's deffinitely worth it.
Rating:
9 out of 10Last edited on Wednesday, August 23rd, 2006 at 6:18 pm PST
 

Review Comments
Chazzmasta Wednesday, June 7th, 2006 | 4:17 am PST
Next time read the owners manual. The stock barrel is pretty much an Ultralight, which are much better than freaks, you were just probly using the wrong paint for the proto barrel. Lube isn't as big of a miracle as you make it appear also.
   

j-man19 Wednesday, June 7th, 2006 | 3:51 pm PST
Dispute:
u got a defect
   

sktbrdngpetey Monday, June 12th, 2006 | 3:59 pm PST
you probably used to much lube
   

Tbone0423 Monday, June 12th, 2006 | 5:07 pm PST
all guns require tuning out of the box (usually). All the bad things (except ASA) could be fixed by a little tuning. User fault, not gun
   

McDoNaLdSbUrGeR Monday, June 12th, 2006 | 9:41 pm PST
Ok.
Chazz: I read the entire manual before I shot the gun. I didn't make a huge deal about the lube but Evil is better than Slick. Also, the freak does shoot better for me.
j-man:Why would you dispute a review because I got a defect? That is what this site is about, reviewing your experiences with paintball stuff. Everything in my review is true.
You shouldn't dispute something unless you think the info in the review is actually false.
petey: I didn't use too much lube.
Tbone: How is tuning that marker gonna' stop it from leaking every other time I air it up?
It isn't my fault that a huge leak started in the LPR or noid.
Sorry that all you Proto lovers can't stand to see the M6 get anything less than a 10.
   

Tbone0423 Thursday, June 15th, 2006 | 8:06 pm PST
quote:
Originally posted by McDoNaLdSbUrGeR
Ok.
Tbone: How is tuning that marker gonna' stop it from leaking every other time I air it up?
It isn't my fault that a huge leak started in the LPR or noid.
Sorry that all you Proto lovers can't stand to see the M6 get anything less than a 10.

actually, tuning will stop a gun from leaking everytime u air it up. If the lpr is too low, u TUNE it and raise it up so it stops leaking and seals the o-rings. If ur noid is leaking u TUNE it and lower it so u dont BLOW the noid. Why the hell would people tune their guns if it didn't make them better?
Last edited on Thursday, June 15th, 2006 at 8:06 pm PST
   

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