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Eclipse17 Friday, June 23rd, 2006
Period of
Product Use:
6 months12 of 12 people found this review helpful.

Paintball
Experience:
2 years
Similar
Products Used:
VL Orion, Spyder MR2
Marker Setup: Spyder MR1, 16'' Tiller barrel, 14 oz co2 tank, Viewloader 12volt Revy
Recommended
Upgrades:
It depends what you are going to be using it for. If you are sniping I would go with a new, quieter barrel (I found that a progressive does a fair amount of silencing, although it might not help much as it is an open bolt-blowback gun), if you are a close combat kinda guy I would go for an Electric hopper, Derlin Bolt, and remote.
Strengths: Fairly cheap
Accurate
Shoots fairly fast
Good out of the box
Weaknesses: Topcocking bolt gets in way of dovetail
Pretty loud
Stock is kinda cheap, but works
Review: Well, where to start. This is indeed Spyder's new Military Sim MR1 marker. If you are from Canada I would strongly suggest buying it from badlandspaintball.com, it is the cheapest price you will get for us canucks.

After my gun arrived I was really hyped up so I threw on a VL 200 Hopper. I quickly went through about 130 rounds pretty quickly. I spent the first 50 or so shots on testing the accuracy and what was left I just shot as quickly as I could. I had no breaks during this time and I was using Draxxus Dusk paint from Walmart. ( This weekend I am going to buy a bunch of different paint's to find what works best on the marker). The stock barrel is fairly accurate, although I haven't really used very many rounds because I quickly threw on my 16'' Tiller I bought off ebay. It worked very well on my VL Orion so I decided to use it first. It was very accurate and I was able to successfully hit a 1 Litre carton of milk from about 50 feet away 10 times in a row before missing a shot.

After about 2 weeks of no paintballing I got really bored so I grabbed a few friends and went out to my local course. The gun proved very accurate and completely out shot my friends' Orion's and Piranha's. It was about even shooting with a tippman A5(yes, amazing) both speed and accuracy wise. Here are some stats for ya-

Accuracy- As I explained before I was able to hit a 1 L milk carton quite consitantly from 50+ feet away. I was also able to get 4 headshots from various ranges, one of which was at least 100 + feet.

Speed- Well this gun is about average speed when you get an electric hopper. I jammed my friend's Halo Frontman LCD on and was easily shooting a 10 BPS for a while until I started breaking balls. If you are getting an electric hopper be sure to get a bolt that is Anti-Chop because you will be going through a lot of sitting on the sides cleaning out your gun.

Field Stripping- This one kinda caught me. If you are going to be playing with the stock that comes with the gun on you are definately going to be bringing your allen wrench along in case you have to field strip. I've found (please correct me if there is another way to do this) that in order to remove the bolt you have to unscrew the stock and take it completely off, which makes for a longer, more difficult field strip. I must be doing something wrong because this does not seem like something Spyder would do.

Toughness- Well most of this gun is pretty tough. The only problems I've had is the grips on the trigger wearing down quite easily, and my stock snapping in two pieces during a slide into a bunker. I might've went down a little hard but this is no reason for the stock to break. When I took the stock out I thought this was bound to happen as it is mostly hard plastic.

Upgradeability- Well I think this is a word. One of the MAJOR advantages the MR1 has over it's close cousin the MR2 is it's ability to take all Spyder thread barrels. The MR2 has some wierd barrel system setup that might make it hard to find some good barrels to go on, and while the MR2 comes with an electric system, the MR1 can very easily be fitted with most (probably any) Spyder grips. If you really feel the need I think you could buy a used or refurbished Imagine and just take the electric trigger system off there and mount it on this gun.
The dove tail that comes with this gun is crappp, plain and simple. There is just simply not enough room to mount anything worth it. However, thank God for JCS paintball products. They have come up with a fairly impressive amount of upgrades avalible for the gun including lowered stocks *I forgot to mention this. The stock that comes with the gun is horrible for mask clearence, so if it really matters to you, you can buy one of the JCS stocks which gives great clearence*, bi-pods, and....Off-set rails! You can easily purchase the products from a variety online stores, however Special Ops dosen't carry any of the MR1 upgrades :(
http://www.bp-usa.com/Spyder.htm

Edit*
Alright people here's the paint report!
On a scale of 1->10 being judged on accuracy out of stock barrel, low chops and price:

8/10 ---> Draxxus Dusk seemed to work really good with the stock barrel, I was able to put 10 out of 10 rounds onto a milk carton from about 60+ feet away and was able to hit a pop can tied to a tree 12/18 times from outside 130-150 feet. woot lol ->$25.99 for 500 Walmart

1/10 ---> Zap cheap paint majority broke in barrel those which didn't break were very inaccurate. Hit the milk from the same range 2 out of 10 shots. yuk ->$19.99 for 500 Walmart

8.5/10 ---> Bought some RPS Premium from Canadian Tire. This is the best paint to use in this gun both with the stock and upgraded barrels. It also hit 10/10 on the milk but was much more accurate when I threw on a 14'' Progressive barrel and a 16'' Tiller. ->$29.99 at Canadian Tire.

So in the end it really comes down to the money you're gonna spend on the paint. This is a mistake many newcomers make when they come to the sport. Please, i'm begging you. Save up the extra $10 or whatever and buy the more expensive paint. Think about it, if you are taking less shots to hit your target, you will begin to see the effects of buying the more expensive paint and the money you saved!
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Edit**
I threw on a friends compressed air tank today and it worked awsome. If you are using this gun on c02 you don't know what you're missing. I shot off 100-120 balls without a single chop while using Zap paint, was very amazed. It also seemed to be more quiet.


Edit***
Well, as much as it pains me to say it, I sold off my MR1 today to buy a Spyder Imagine as I am going to be joining a speedball team:(. It was an awsome gun and I intend on buying another one for a backup when/if they go down in price or I get the extra cash$$.
Conclusion: I would say that this is a great starter gun and a great gun for the woodsball player. Spyder knew what they were doing with this gun, and perfected pretty much everything except for the stock and the cheap elbow that comes with the gun.
Rating:
9 out of 10Last edited on Wednesday, August 30th, 2006 at 3:54 pm PST
 

Review Comments
likmypaintballs Saturday, July 1st, 2006 | 9:15 pm PST
Happy Canada Day! i just got back from a week of fishing in SOUTHERN quebeck. i know it was yesterday but i just saw your review it was very helpfull
P.S. i know its of topic but could you send me the lyrics to your national anthom i know some of it i was trying to sing it when i was there anyway thanks
   

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