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Dragonis Friday, July 7th, 2006
The accuracy of this review is disputed. Please see discussion below.
Period of
Product Use:
Less than a month3 of 8 people found this review helpful.

Paintball
Experience:
2 years
Similar
Products Used:
stock Ion firing can (far superior)
Marker Setup: SP Ion
SP All American Barrel
SP Max Flo Micro (4500/68)
SP 360 QEV
SP Q-lock Feedneck
Empire Reloader B
NDZ Blade Trigger
NDZ Rear Donut
Shocktech Super Fly Bolt
Strengths: Looks cool with any body kit that has cuts in it.
Weaknesses: Destroys efficiency
Makes the gun misfire
Leaks
Does not work with some bolts
Review: I would just like to say that I love NDZ. They make great products and I personally own an NDZ trigger and rear donut so please don't take this as me bashing the company.
Put in the simplest of terms, this product is flawed from it very design.

I recently ordered this firing can online along with the NDZ rear donut for my ion. When I got my stuff I inspected the products and found that the firing can had an extra o-ring in the tail section that make my brand new shocktech bolt useless. So I greased up my stock bolt and installed it into the firing can and reassembled the gun (I did transfer the stock bolt stop to the new firing can). Now the fun begins (or so I thought). I gassed up my gun and the bolt cycled about half a dozen times on full auto with no trigger pulls! When that stopped it decided to try firing it. I shot the first paintball and it seemed okay but when I tried to ramp the gun it would only sputter out 2 or 3 shots a second. After pulling the loader I looked down into the feed neck and cycled the gun several time with the eyes of and noticed that for some reason the bolt was not returning to the full back position as quickly as it should, it would jam for a half second about 4 mm from the back. This was preventing the gun from feeding paint at the proper speed. I could also hear a distinct hissing sound between each shot and the gun was guzzling air. I disassembled the gun and found that everything appeared to be in working order. Now I decided to install my old firing can but still use the stock bolt and the NDZ rear donut. I went to test fire it and everything worked flawlessly. The firing can had been causing every problem that I was having. I don't know what is the actually problem with this thing but after looking around on the Internet I found that several other people had experience problems with this thing. Maybe NDZ needs to go back to the drawing board on this one.
Conclusion: No matter how much I like NDZ I cannot bring myself to give this item more than a 1. It is absolutely pointless to purchase an item that is so much worse than the one you get for buying your Ion.
Rating:
1 out of 10
 

Review Comments
Gwan Thursday, July 20th, 2006 | 12:43 pm PST
try adjusting your dwell
   

MustanGuy Friday, July 21st, 2006 | 7:03 pm PST
yeah, I adjusted my dwell to around 8-10 with lightning bolt & 360 QEV and it works like a dream!
   

Dragonis Friday, July 21st, 2006 | 9:52 pm PST
I tried adjusting the dwell and could not fix the problems I was having. But it doesn't matter anymore because I returned it and got a full refund.
   

iownanion Sunday, July 30th, 2006 | 11:45 am PST
if you would have not put the stock bolt stop in it would have worked, the qev might be installed wrong to (had that happen)
   

Ensign Dave Sunday, July 30th, 2006 | 6:20 pm PST
Dispute:
I have this can with an L6 and Ive had NONE of these problems. I do know that the older ones didnt have the o ring like the new ones (like mine) and I believe this may be this guys problem - either that or he has another issue, like a leak somwhere else.
   

Paintbalfreak5 Tuesday, October 10th, 2006 | 10:02 pm PST
Dispute:
I have this can with an L6 and Ive had NONE of these problems. I do know that the older ones didnt have the o ring like the new ones (like mine) and I believe this may be this guys problem - either that or he has another issue, like a leak somwhere else.

are you retarded he said that after he put the stock firing can in it worked flawlessly. So a leak wouldn't be a problem. de de de!!!
Last edited on Sunday, January 21st, 2007 at 7:30 pm PST
   

PaInTbAlL KiNg8 Thursday, December 28th, 2006 | 12:31 pm PST
im 13 i put it in myself and i had no problerms you tard.
   

smartpartzzkidd Monday, April 16th, 2007 | 4:27 am PST
that extra o-ring is catching on the 2nd o-ring on the bolt
   

burns130 Tuesday, November 25th, 2008 | 10:35 am PST
I own two complete combos for my markers (sons/mine). They are not an item for anyone who doesn't have 100% rebuild/maintenance knowledge of their marker. You are leaking...most likely out of the donut. I had to use different can o'rings then came with the combo kit on one of my markers. Your bolt rings might be the problem if you are failing to reseat. Either way, your problem is o'ring induced. It is easily fixed. My markers rock 285 FPS @ 130 PSI...quiet...no kick and FAST (>30BPS on auto). They have also been absolutely reliable over hundreds of hours of play...not one combo related problem. Sorry, but it is an operator maintenance limitation.
   

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