Tippman 98, tippman A5, smart parts Ion, Spyder Electra
Marker Setup:
Spyder VS3
Blue Evo2 loader
Recommended Upgrades:
None so far. Stock, this marker shoots excellent.
Strengths:
Accurate, quiet, very quick, easy to use. Eyes can be turned off if needed.
Weaknesses:
limited firing modes. Grip not sitting flush at first. Not all spyder barrels fit.
Review:
I fired this marker fresh out of the box, so everything was stock. This gun is very awsome and easy to use. The grip did not sit flush when the battery was first installed. After moving the wires around a little and tightly holding the grip the grip fits much better and much more flush. The firing modes are also limited to 3round burst and Semi-auto. There is however, a tournament lock to make the marker tourny legal. The only other downside is that other spyder-threaded barrels do not fit past the VS3's body. I tried a 14" CP barrel and the stock electra barrel, mainly just to see if they fit. The stock barrel has the same thread size, however the barrel is just a few milimeters slimmer than other spyder threaded barrels.
The marker is pretty accurate right out of the box. It is rather consistant as well. I did not notice any kick when firing the gun, even at full speed. This marker was a blast to shoot. I did not run in to any re-cocking issues or ball chops. The eyes worked flawlessly and kept the paint 'alive'. The strenths of this marker far out-weigh the weaknesses. Even then, i'm sure upgrades will be available shortly for this marker.
Conclusion:
I would reccemend this marker to anyone looking to buy. I highly enjoyed shooting this thing. It met and exceeded my expectations of its operation for being fully stock. There are few markers out there that do not need many, if any upgrades to be an awsome marker. I believe this is one of those markers.
The barrel size is not a big deal, and neither is the grip not sitting flush. moving the wires a little bit more will clear that problem. Everything else on this marker is just awsome. The bolt is easily removed as well. Just pull up on the locking pin and the bolt slides right out the back. This marker is simple to use, and is a blast to shoot. This marker definitly allows you to fly through some paint. After you shoot this marker, you'll probably find yourself asking "Is this really a kingman?"
Rating:
10 out of 10
Last edited on Monday, October 9th, 2006 at 8:53 pm PST
quote:Originally posted by pballaz what is the feed neck like is it clamping or an o ring and is it quiet to shoot?
The VS series has a clamping feed neck. Its actually a pretty good feed neck though, no o rings needed to tightly secure a hopper. It took a little force/pressue to get my hopper on, but after that it clamped down easily. the hopper was secure and when I was down testing, the hopper can out like normal.
As far as being quiet... Some people have said its still louder than an EP marker, but i'm thinkin' this is one of, if not the most quiet blowback marker. Thats with the stock barrel too, and I know some barrels do a pretty good job of lowering the volume of sound created when shooting a marker.
yeah man VS3 is without a doubt the ion killer, my friend has the ion and every game we play the ion is messing up. When he tries to walk the trigger and gets around 10 BPS the gun shoots at lower and lower pressure until the balls barely go 40 feet. Terrible. I haven't seen the vs3 but i have the electra with eyes and the rocking trigger is awesome, faster then you would think. The eyes are also terrific on the electra, whoever said they weren't must not treat their gun very well because out of the 7 cases I have shot with it not one chop. watch out smart-parts!
what is a blowback marker and an EP marker....... god i feel stupid and did you read that guys review that gave the vs3 6 out of 10.... whats that all about?
quote:Originally posted by pballaz what is a blowback marker and an EP marker....... god i feel stupid and did you read that guys review that gave the vs3 6 out of 10.... whats that all about?
A blowback is a marker that uses co2 to bnlow back the hammer and then drains the co2 being used by the hammer, letting the spring push the hammer and bolt forward, proppelling the ball. An EP (Electronic Pneumatic) is what higher end guns operate on and it uses two streams of propellant (co2 or HpA) on either side of the bolt, when the trigger is pulled, the front stream is cut off allowing the back stream to thrust the bolt forward.
quote:Originally posted by pballaz thanks umm i wanted to know if the only difference between the vs2 and the vs3 is the trigger
Yes, the only difference is that the vs3 has the rocking trigger and is capped at 30 BPS and The VS2 has the Infinity trigger and is capped at 25 BPS (Both virtually impossible to reach, so they will both be plenty.) Also, not really a difference, but the VS2 has a different top body color and different patterns on the side than the VS3. All other internals are and function the same.
quote:Originally posted by Spy-der4life yeah man VS3 is without a doubt the ion killer, my friend has the ion and every game we play the ion is messing up. When he tries to walk the trigger and gets around 10 BPS the gun shoots at lower and lower pressure until the balls barely go 40 feet. Terrible. I haven't seen the vs3 but i have the electra with eyes and the rocking trigger is awesome, faster then you would think. The eyes are also terrific on the electra, whoever said they weren't must not treat their gun very well because out of the 7 cases I have shot with it not one chop. watch out smart-parts!
My buddy had that issue... something is wrong with your buddies settings... he needs to adjust a couple things on his Ion, and it'll stop having those problems.
If you like the electra, you'll absolutly fall in love with the VS3. Just imagine a better electra. The kick is nearly gone, not as loud, a little lighter.....Since the internals are a lighter the marker may fire faster than the electra as well. Also, you're right about the eyes. The eyes are awsome.
My buddy had that issue... something is wrong with your buddies settings... he needs to adjust a couple things on his Ion, and it'll stop having those problems.
If you like the electra, you'll absolutely fall in love with the VS3. Just imagine a better electra. The kick is nearly gone, not as loud, a little lighter.....Since the internals are a lighter the marker may fire faster than the electra as well. Also, you're right about the eyes. The eyes are awesome.
Yes maybe, ill have to tell him about that. I also like the fact that you can strip the bolt out without taking all the internals out to clean it. Spyders steppin it up. What are your opinions on the ions in general?
Yes, the only difference is that the vs3 has the rocking trigger and is capped at 30 BPS and The VS2 has the Infinity trigger and is capped at 25 BPS (Both virtually impossible to reach, so they will both be plenty.) Also, not really a difference, but the VS2 has a different top body color and different patterns on the side than the VS3. All other internals are and function the same.
sweet ya i might get the vs2 now because i might want to go to tournaments and its cheaper and i dont know if i could master the rocking trigger do you think i should?
Yes maybe, ill have to tell him about that. I also like the fact that you can strip the bolt out without taking all the internals out to clean it. Spyders steppin it up. What are your opinions on the ions in general?
The VS series is a GREAT improvement over previous spyders. They really are steppin' up in the world.
As far as Ions, I think they're good for the money. Its also easy to make a high end marker out of them, if you want a high end marker but are on a tight budget... I hope that the aftermarket companies make some products that greatly improve the VS series, so it can be an Ion competitor.
quote:Originally posted by pballaz i know its not good to shoot your gun with co2 so if you use an anti syphoned tube in your tank would that be like a HPA tank?
The rocking trigger really isn't bad, and it is legal in some or most tournaments, depending where you live. If you want to make sure there is no problems with getting in to tournaments, the vs2 is the way to go.
ive been thinking about this gun, and i saw that you compared the ion to the vs3s bps. the vs3 dosent have ramping, so very few people caneven get past 17bps, and there is only 1 loader that can keep up with the vs3 and thats the vlrevolution loader,which is 25 bps rated. so to get ramping, you have to get a new board.oh, im sure you know about the virtue and even better rampage boards, which can get 25-30bps, even a t-board can get that high and the t-board is 60 bucks! so really for a little more than the vs3 you can get the same speed and a tournament board
The rocking trigger really isn't bad, and it is legal in some or most tournaments, depending where you live. If you want to make sure there is no problems with getting in to tournaments, the vs2 is the way to go.
ya im not even good at walking the trigger and the vs2 can get up to 25bps just 5 more than the vs3 and even if i practised i couldnt get up to that ......i'd rather save the money at least its an upgrade from the victor lol
quote:Originally posted by matts ive been thinking about this gun, and i saw that you compared the ion to the vs3s bps. the vs3 dosent have ramping, so very few people caneven get past 17bps, and there is only 1 loader that can keep up with the vs3 and thats the vlrevolution loader,which is 25 bps rated. so to get ramping, you have to get a new board.oh, im sure you know about the virtue and even better rampage boards, which can get 25-30bps, even a t-board can get that high and the t-board is 60 bucks! so really for a little more than the vs3 you can get the same speed and a tournament board
Are you going off the actual price of the VS series, or the MSRP?
