Tippmann m98 and it's not even close to the BT 4's add on's
BT 4 Iron-horse (sweet gun all by it self)
Apex barrel (the coolest barrel ever. It's not for everyone but everyone should try it a few times.)
Full dress up kit (Heavy duty car. stock, M4A1 carry handle,F.O.G. M4A1 foregrip w/2 rails.)
Rufus Dawg Front dolt and power tube (best of the best)
Dead on Rocket cocker 2 (keep dirt out of your gun!)
Bi-pod (work good for a stand so you don't have to set your gun in th dirt)
front downward grip (helps you hold the gun i always put it on the F.O.G. M4A1 foregrip for a real feel.)
M4A1 2 point harness (Good for long games)
30mm Red dot site
EVERYONE AS SOON AS YOU GET THE BT OR ANY TIPPMANN POLISH THE INTERNALS! not the bolt or anything but the inside of the gun, get some steal wool and polish it tel' the inside looks like chrome!!! the guns efficiency will go up 100% when i first got the BT i could shoot 600 - 800 rounds after polishing i can shoot a case and a half
Rufus Dawg Front bolt and power tube ( I wish the power tube was metal but when or if it breaks I'll get the DEAD ON 98C PRO-SEAL POWERTUBE and cut the groves it needs for the front bolt to slide all the way back because the Rufus Dawg Front dolt is key for the best ball performance and the DEAD ON 98C PRO-SEAL POWERTUBE gives you max air pressure, best of both worlds.
With some small modification i got the Dead on Rocket cocker 2 to fix the BT 4 you just have to sand the bottom screw hole off a little at a time tell it fits snug.
EXPANSION CHAMBER (if you use C02)
30mm Red dot site
Price (I got it for $330)
Range (think you Apex)
The feel (with a full 9 oz. tank it weighs 8 lb like a real M4A1! and three 1/2 pounds trigger pull just like a M4A1!)
fits most M 98 and C 98 mods
and fits most A5 mods
It fits almost all barrel threads
refashioned feed neck
The body is a 98 with 3/4'' rails top and bottom and a removable front grip. All the internals are the same as a C98 except the Duel ball detent can be flipped over when one side breaks. It fits almost all barrel threads. The refashioned feed neck slides on the 3/4'' rail so no more wobbling hoppers like the 98. When you need to work on your gun slide the neck back with the hopper still on it and there is no more dropping balls everywhere. response trigger. I would get a halo hopper to keep up. The apex barrel is the best hands down. Mil-sim look and feel.
Heavy (if you want a light gun buy a speed ball gun)
open bolt (Also it keeps snagging on my ghillie)
I fixed the open bolt but why do they make it where sand can go right in.
get a Dead on Rocket cocker 2 to fix the BT 4 you just have to sand the bottom screw hole off a little at a time til it fits snug.
If you want the best mil-sim gun on the market with lots of mods get this gun.
the only kink in the gun i fixed with some ingenuity. I haven't chopped a ball yet!
i give it a ten out of ten because it's everything i need and can change for what ever i need it for. the apex barrel at 300 fps WILL break balls at a 100 yards!
It's a great Gun
10 out of 10
Last edited on Wednesday, February 21st, 2007 at 6:57 am PST
hi ghillie from hell :), can u post (or mail me) where 2 buy rufus dawg thing, power tube and dead on.....? (searched over inet, but with no success - newbie:(( I have absolutely no idea, 4 what all its, but u say its good, u have the gun, i want buy it in future, u play paintball 5 years, i five months, no discussion u r right :) thnx
quote:Originally posted by AmbushOrigin not sure where u got the idea that ben is family... hes not associated in the tippmann pneumatics family. Just his name happens to be the same, hes also stated he is no relation.
actually, ben tippmann is a nephew of the person who owns tippmann pneumatics. so in theory, they ARE in the same family. its just that the two companies ARE NOT related.
Good review, but I'd like to point a couple of unimportant, nagging things out. =P
An M4A1 weighs about 5 pounds, I believe, because the M-16/C7 weigh about 6 pounds. I was in the military, I'm used to that. =P Plus, I can guarantee you the trigger pull isn't nearly as heavy as a real rifle... and I've yet to see an assault rifle with a double trigger. ;)
Personally, it looks kind of like an M4 because of the rail, the stock, and the heat shroud, but the feels a tad off. It has nicely inspired looks but that's where the similarities end. =P
Also, I think you can fix the open bolt situation with a Rock Cock attachment that they have for the 98... not sure if it'll fit on the BT series, but you should find it helpful if it does. Plus, it keeps the dirt out of the bolt. If it fits, it'll increase the life of your gun for sure. =)
And as mentioned, Ben Tippmann is the nephew of the owner of Tippmann... so that's probably why he's able to get away with a lot of the similarities to the Tippmann line, as long as they aren't the same. I could be wrong, but I imagine there's some sort of agreement. BT markers have a lot of similarities to Tippmann markers, and either BT's really good at finding patent loop holes or there's an agreement going on. =P
Anyways! I found this review very helpful and so I marked it as such. Cheers!
my BT weigh 5-6 pounds with nothing on it and 8 LB fully loaded with all my gear and 20 oz co2 and the trigger pull before i got the spring kit is 3.5 lb of pull just look at the picture of the bt and gillie mask that my gun...
FOr anyone that plans on building an Ironhorse out of a bt-4 combat, they sell an m-16/Apex barrel combination for about 130 dollars. So unless you really must have an F.O.G. foregrip, it's cheaper by about 70 bucks.
Ok people tippmann was founded by two brothers, one of the brothers bought the other out and ben tippmann (who was bought out) created the ben tippmann brand. That is why tippmann and bt are almost identical.