Shockers, intimidators, DM's, and more. No ego's, strangely enough... This gun is comparable to them all, and cheaper than most, so far one of the best bang-for-the-buck guns out there, got mine for $700 basically brand new from a good friend of Chris Cole (the designer of the gun)
Gold 2003 Shocker w/ Vision (aka the "Golden Gun")
Main barrel - 14" Stiffi
Backup barrel - Black Freak barrel system with gold AA front (14")
Black CCM clamping feedneck
Black CP drop and on/off with air bleed (haha, sounds like a BOV)
Black CP Reg
Black NDZ 15* ASA with SP 300 psi gauge
Stock trigger with a nice light, crisp pull (takes some time to set up, but worth it...)
Black NDZ Stinger v3 bolt kit
Black custom anno'd bolt guide (from Punisher's PB)
Virtue Board (HOLY CRAP, it's SWEEEET)
PMI Pure Energy 88/4500 HPA tank
Halo B with v35 board, 12v Boost hot pack (disposable), and Zenitram delrin drive cone
Maybe a new reg if desired, or a barrel. A fast hopper is a must, in order to squeeze out this marker's full potential.
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So saving you the intimate details of how I got acquainted with this gun, long story short I bought it off a friend who is good friends with Chris Cole, the man behind the design and concept of this remarkable marker. He has never steered me wrong in the past, and I always turn to him for valuable advice. So as follows is my impression of this great new addition to the market:
As you can see from my current setup, I have a shocker (which I love very much, and you are more than welcome to read my review of it), and what attracted me to the Quest is similar to what originally attracted me to my current marker. It is sleek, lightweight, and just feels good in your hands. The frame has a slight clam-shell feel to it, but not as much as others, which I like. The anodizing (black dust) was absolutely flawless, and looked military spec.
I think my favorite thing about the gun is the trigger. It is your standard magnetic return bearing trigger at first glance, but when you touch it, and mess around with it, you will find it to be so much more. It has TONS of room in the guard (at least compared to what I am used to with the stock shocker frame), and it is that "scythe" style that has been gaining a lot of popularity recently. It just feels GOOD when you pull it, my first thought was "wow, you can't hardly feel the microswitch," which is nice because I can't miss it in my shocker :-/. At any rate, yeah, the trigger is f-ing sweet, and you WILL like it if set up properly.
Yes, this marker is very fast. Is it faster than every other gun out there? No, but it is more than fast enough for 99% of the people who will use it. It will shoot as fast as your hopper will load, so the faster the hopper you use, the more happy you will be with the speed of this gun. In ramping mode, I was hitting 20 bps (verified by the X-Radar handheld chrono I have, which measures fps, and bps, a handy little device) with little difficulty (Halo B with v35 board and 12v Boost disposable hot pack, holy moley!). It's fast, and I don't think I need to spend any more time discussing this...
With the 007 barrel it comes with, it is sufficiently accurate to hit an 8" tree 100% of the time from around 35-40 feet. I DO feel, however, that my shocker/stiffi combination is a little more accurate, but for a stock barrel it is VERY good. I like how the control bore is considerably longer than pretty much any other barrel kit (like 7 or so inches, I can't remember exactly), and the autococker threaded body is a good thing if you have other barrels sitting around with that thread (I don't, so it's not particularly useful to me...).
I really like the eyes on this gun, breakbeam eyes I think will always outperform relfective ones, and this gun is no exception. I had ZERO chops or breaks in the case of paint (PMI Premium, my personal favorite for all-around play) I put through this marker.
I didn't specifically measure this, but I shot about 500 rounds on around 1000 psi on an 88/4500 tank. Over a case of paint on a fill? Not bad in my book. With the Goldmember bolt (yes, another sweet James Bond reference), look to get around 1600-1700 shots from your average 68/45. Definitely better than the stock bolt I HAD in my shocker, but only slightly better than the Stinger V3 I have now (I get just under a case on a fill with my tank).
This gun is pretty quiet, not silent by any means with the stock barrel, but I'm sure a stiffi (what I have on the ol' shockeroo) would get it a heck of a lot closer. Again, not really worth spending a lot of time on this...
I WILL say that this gun has the LEAST kick of any marker I have shot. Less (even though only slightly) than my shocker, and less than most other guns out there right now. You really might forget it is firing, the barrel doesn't push up when shooting a stream of paint, and stays DEAD STILL. Definitely a strength here...
I didn't use the gun long enough to get a fair estimate of this, but what I saw I did like. It worked great for me!
EASE OF USE/MAINTENANCE
This gun is absolutely cake to care for and tune. One moving piece, and only 2 pieces in the firing assembly. Far fewer o-rings than my shocker, and therefore uses less lube. DO, however, keep it WELL LUBED, this gun likes it sloppy ;-). The regs are easy to take care of, and the manual does a great job of showing you what to do and when.
As far as tuning/tweaking, the WAS board that all of the newest ones have is a piece of cake to adjust as well. It uses the colored LED system that most aftermarket boards use, with different lights indicating different menu options, and all programming is done through the trigger. It you want to lock it for tournaments, you have to do something with shorting two connections, but I didn't mess with this so you are on your own there...
I put my CP reg from my shocker on the Quest, so I am not sure how the stock reg is. I have heard it is good, so if you don't have a different reg that you prefer, you should probably be fine leaving the stock one on there. On mine, the macroline fitting hit the palm of my hand when gripping the reg; I didn't like that, so I took it off and put my CP on, which has the fitting on the bottom, out of the way :-).
With the CP reg, and a good paint match, I was getting +/- 5 or so fps. Keep in mind that the marker was not broken in, and after a few cases you should be able to expect even better numbers than that...
Ok, so above I listed few/none for the weaknesses, and for the most part, there really aren't any. The only gripes I have deal with things that may not affect ANYONE else, but I figure it is only fair to point them out...
1) The skin/webbing between my left thumb and index finger somehow manages (regularly) to hit the power button just right, and I can turn my gun on or off without taking my hand off the trigger. Could be bad in a game, know what I mean?
2) The grip panels, while definitely sexy and neat looking, are not the most comfortable. I would have liked to have the edges smoothed so that there are not "sharp" edges along the perimeter. It would just make them more comfortable when not wearing gloves... I like my Dye Sticky 3's on my shocker, they are soft and mold to my hand, but again, this is just personal preference. There is also a slight gap between the frame and the grips, makes me a little nervous that stuff could get in there...
3) As mentioned in the consistency section, the reg fitting can poke into your hand depending on the alignment.
4) You have to either take off the frame or remove the macroline fitting from the reg to completely unscrew the reg from the gun. The large trigger guard keeps the reg from being allowed to spin all the way around. This was annoying for me, but I can see how someone might look at it as a way to keep from losing your reg somehow (I guess...). I am not sure if you can service the reg with it still screwed into the gun, if so then I guess this might not be a problem, but it irritated me a little.
5) There is no gauge to say what the pressure coming out of the vertical reg is. Again, not a big deal, just something I would have liked, as I have a gauge on my shocker. It DOES have an LPR pressure gauge, just no HPR one. This is just something that would make tuning quicker/easier, not serious, but would be nice to see (yes, I am aware that CP, as well as perhaps other manufacturers have regs with gauge ports on them, but I would like one ON the gun)...
6) The only other thing I can think of that bothers me for now is the lack of upgradeable parts, which I'm sure will change soon, but for the time being I consider it a minor drawback. There is a bolt kit, a bolt guide, and a different clamping feedneck, but that's about it (no trigger, frame, eye cover, etc. that I know of).
I guess that pretty much covers my experience with the gun. I think it is also fair to note that I have recently sold the gun on ebay because I couldn't convince myself that it was overall better than my shocker. I used it for about a month, and just wasn't as impressed as I was hoping to be. If I had gone straight from a spyder or Ion, I think I would probably swear by this gun, and never regret it, but I really wasn't blown away. It is absolutely great, don't get me wrong, but so is my shocker, and I have already invested a lot of time and money into it...
This gun, on its own merit, is absolutely great. Not perfect, but definitely close. It is fast, reliable, accurate, easy to tune and maintain.
Since it was not better than my shocker, I decided to sell it, and stick with the gun that has kept me happy for the last 2+ years.
I call it one of the best values for a high-end tournament ready gun (defined as not NEEDING anything besides a tank and hopper to mow faces), and if you buy it you will not be disappointed - provided you don't have a parent-like attachment to your current gun like I do, haha...
I am going to give it a 9 because I bought it and liked it a lot, but not going to give it a 10 because the Shocker ended up kicking it out of bed...
If you have any questions or comments, I am certainly open to hearing them :-).
9 out of 10
Last edited on Thursday, October 26th, 2006 at 10:49 am PST
I have a shocker. it kicks so much compare to my DM. I have an dark G7 fly. DM has still less kick. Have you tried DM? I have promaster it kicks. I am pretty sensitive about kick. I am comparing them with high end kicks not low end kicks. Have you tried DMS? they are least kick you know. My angel and dm has almost no kick.
what I am saying is, if you think shocker has a little more kick than quest... it means quest has a great kick.
quote:Originally posted by pepsi4all I have a shocker. it kicks so much compare to my DM. I have an dark G7 fly. DM has still less kick. Have you tried DM? I have promaster it kicks. I am pretty sensitive about kick. I am comparing them with high end kicks not low end kicks. Have you tried DMS? they are least kick you know. My angel and dm has almost no kick.
what I am saying is, if you think shocker has a little more kick than quest... it means quest has a great kick.
everyone has different sensitivity about kick someone can fell it more in a marker than in a other and the opposite for someone else