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af895 Friday, December 29th, 2006
Period of
Product Use:
3 months12 of 18 people found this review helpful.

Paintball
Experience:
1 year
Similar
Products Used:
PPS Brass 14" unported, Hammerhead Battlestikxx Recon kit with 5-backs, OpsGear Interceptor 18", stock 14" ported barrel, Smart Parts "Stealth" 19" ported barrel kit all on an SP-8.
Marker Setup: Palmer Pursuit Shop Blazer ser#: BZ2581, Right-hand feed neck
12" double-ported PPS Brass barrel, matched with sight bead, brass finish
vertical male stabilizer (a PPS high-pressure regulator)
Pure Energy 68/4500 HPA bottle
Pure Energy remote line
Recommended
Paintballs:
Anything above Walm*rt level. Pro-Caps white box or any of their sub-brands like Draxxus and X-ball.
Strengths: Elliptical honed PPS Brass barrels will shoot ANY paint extremely well.
Weaknesses: Uhhhh...heavy?
Review: Background
My respect for and patronage to Palmer Pursuit Shop (PPS) started with an experiment. I wanted to try some or all of the major "heavy hitter" barrels on the market to cut through the hype and see what really performed. I had no preconceived ideas, just a bunch of cash for paintball gear and an open mind.

I was shooting an SP-8 at the time which is an Ion in a mil-sim shell designed to look like the XM-8. It shot well and I had it tuned to be consistent.

Side by Side Barrel Testing
Of all the barrels I tried, listed above under "similar products used", the PPS brass was the most consistent and forgiving on the SP-8. It shot a variety of paint well, ranging from low-grade field paint to white-box to high-end Hellfire. Further, it tended to shoot tighter groupings with all paint than any of the other barrels I tried.

The Side-Effect of the Side by Side Barrel Testing...
This tweaked me to the fact, while PPS doesn't heavily market their products, they just build excellent gear that works well.

I ordered a PPS Blazer fully mechanical semi with a 12", double-vented barrel, matched to the marker with a sight pin installed.

Wow. With double-venting ("porting") it's whisper quiet, on par with many electronic tournament guns I've tried and often shoot next to.

It is, like the unported 14" I'd previously tried, very consistent, accurate and tolerant of a variety of paint.

Why do PPS Brass Barrels perform so well?
The *theory* behind the PPS brass consistency is their elliptical honing which makes the muzzle and breech slightly tighter than the midsection. This acts as a "quasi-kit" but without any inserts needed and with no specific bore diameter but rather a general bore-size range that accomodates smaller and larger sized paint - a variation seen not only between brands of paint but paint in the same case.

Further, PPS has indicated they believe brass to have the lowest coefficient of friction against the gelatin that a paintball shell is made of. Brass is also a material that's easy for them to work, making it more practical for them to work the interior of the barrel to the elliptical profile they believe best.

Palmer is also making smaller bore barrels - they also feature elliptical honing but have a slightly smaller "average bore" for users of smaller diameter paint.
Conclusion: I don't see myself EVER buying another brand or style of barrel. The Palmers have perfected barrel technology.

They are also too humble to toot their own horns about it in paintball magazines or online. I'll be one of their supporters to do the horn tooting for them:

PPS is to paintball what Hattori Hanzo is to swords.
Only the select few will ever know this kind of quality - you should be one of them.
Rating:
10 out of 10Last edited on Monday, January 1st, 2007 at 10:10 am PST
 

Review Comments
JoeSchmo123 Friday, December 29th, 2006 | 2:34 pm PST
no offence dude but if your going to spend $90 on a barrel buy a freak jr or something of better quality than anything from view loader....excluding the vlocity and vlocity jr.
   

af895 Friday, December 29th, 2006 | 2:51 pm PST
quote:
Originally posted by JoeSchmo123
no offence dude but if your going to spend $90 on a barrel buy a freak jr or something of better quality than anything from view loader....excluding the vlocity and vlocity jr.

"Viewloader?" What are you talking about?

These barrels are made by the Palmer Pursuit Shop, not Viewloader.
   

Notafinga! Tuesday, January 9th, 2007 | 9:26 pm PST
Man, You right some of the best reviews on pbreview. I am quickly becoming a huge fan of yours. I'm picking up a 12" vented barrel for my CCM Series 5 Autococker and Series 6 pump. SAY GOODBYE TO BARREL KITS FOREVER!!


to JoeSchmo123: Maybe read the review first before posting. I have no Idea were you got VL from.
   

af895 Thursday, January 11th, 2007 | 3:40 pm PST
quote:
Originally posted by Notafinga!
Man, You right some of the best reviews on pbreview. I am quickly becoming a huge fan of yours. I'm picking up a 12" vented barrel for my CCM Series 5 Autococker and Series 6 pump. SAY GOODBYE TO BARREL KITS FOREVER!!...


Shucks... I'm blushing here. ;o)

I predict you'll love the PPS Brass. An option to ask PPS about: "wedgits" (not to be confused with "widgets")... they're little "dents" in the breech of the barrel that act like detents. They come standard on the Blazer barrel but might also be invaluable with the 'cocker and pump to prevent ball roll-outs since they're both closed-bolt systems like the Blazer.

Also ask about bore sizes: if you find yourself using a lot of really under-sized paint, a slightly tighter bore will give you better performance. It's worth noting, there's probably NO reason to ever own more than two PPS brass barrels - one in "regular" and one in "small" bore.

I'm using the standard bore quite successfully with a bunch of different types of paint. So far: Draxxus Hellfire, X-ball bronze and silver, Pro-caps Rec-Sport and white-box. It's all probably "medium" bore paint with a bit of up and down-sizing from box to box (note: all those brands are owned by Pro-Caps)

I'd consider getting the small-bore barrel but haven't encountered any really small paint yet around here.

Once again, thanks for the kind words Notafinga!
C.j.
Last edited on Thursday, January 11th, 2007 at 3:41 pm PST
   

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