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MisterMister Saturday, February 17th, 2007
Period of
Product Use:
1 year26 of 29 people found this review helpful.

Paintball
Experience:
2 years
Similar
Products Used:
Stock A-5 barrel, stock X7 barrel, GTA Flatline, J&J ceramic, Dye Ultra-lite, Hammer-Head, Freak Jr. (kit), Stiffi CF
Marker Setup: Tippmann A-5, A.P.E. Rampage board/e-grip, DOP front bolt, Pure Energy remote coil, Dye Throttle 4500PSI/70CUI HPA tank, Trinity rear drive spring, Palmer brass barrel, JCS Duel trigger, JCS "Jet Click" mod, 3 point sling
Recommended
Paintballs:
ANY! Thats the beauty of this barrel! (see review body)
Strengths: Shoots any paint and is as acurate as ANY barrel out there.
Weaknesses: None that matter (see review body)...
Review: After researching a LOT about different barrels last year, I came by these. after buying one, I couldnt believe how well it worked and that no one else that I knew was using them! I figured that I would share the knowledge with you...

That barrel is question is produced by Craig Palmer him self (paintball superstar, maker of the Palmer line of markers such as the Blazer and Typhoon, and owner/operator of PPS - Palmer Pursuit Shop - www.palmer-pursuit.com). That barrel being the Palmer Pursuit Shop (PPS) brass barrel.

These things are the absolute shiznit! They have a LOT of great things going for them...

They offer elliptical honing, meaning that no matter what size/type of paintball you use, it will always be matched to at least part of the inner diameter of the barrel. That means no need for different inserts, backs or "kits". Its a truly "one size fits all" barrel when it comes to paint balls. No more paint matching every time you play or switch ball types!

They are also made out of pure brass (hence the name, DUH!). Brass offers the LOWEST amount of friction when in contact with paintball shell gelatin. Less friction then any other material used in paintball barrels today, including but not limited to carbon-fiber, ceramic, aluminum, and stainless steel.

Now itís not needed (these work great straight out of the box), but PPS will also match the barrel specifically to your marker. Now I donít mean your type of marker but YOUR marker. If you have the time to send it in, they will match the barrel to your marker offering the ABSOLUTE BEST performance. This is the only company which I know of that will purpose match their barrel to your specific marker. If you chose to do so you are guaranteed to have the absolute best performance you can possible buy as far as barrels are concerned anyway.

I had one of Palmer's barrels on my last marker, a highly moded Tippmann A5. I tired MANY different barrels before finding about the PPS barrels. I went through the stock A-5 barrel, a Flatline, a Stiffi CF barrel, and a J&J 2 piece ceramic barrel. The PPS brass outperformed ALL of these by a noticeable amount. I could literally put paint on top of paint from 50' out while firing at fully automatic speeds of 20BPS. The amount of head shots which I got after switching to this barrel was unprecedented. I could literally use any paint too. From super crap field paint (Google "Bonus Balls" ) to year old paint, to Marbalizers it fired them with the up most accuracy and range. I loved the fact that I could do this without needing to change anything on my marker! I was sad whem I had to sell it with the A-5. I will be picking one up for the PMR when I get a chance though. The only reason why I got the UL over a PPS brass is because I got a super deal on a used UL. A friend with a cocker sold me an almost new UL for only 45 bucks. I couldnt pass that up!

Now this barrel isnít all sunshine and farts. It does have one downside. Itís WEIGHT. Because itís made of ALL BRASS, this thing is heavy compared to most of the other barrels out on the market. However since I had it on an A-5 this wasnít something that I noticed. Just keep in mind that this thing is a bantam weight barrel. Other then that, there really arenít any down sides to the PPS Brass.

There are a few options when you order one too, however NONE of the options affect performance one way or another. You can get it ported or unported. Porting will add a lot to the cost, but will also make the barrel MUCH more quiet. An unported version has a rather loud report. Of course if you donít care about how loud it is then b y all means get the unported version. It will save you a lot of extra cash.

The other ordering option is it's finish. You can get it in plain brass (free), Powder Coated black (extra 10 bucks), or Nickel plated (very shiny, bling-bling chrome style, also very costly). Again the coating is only on the OUTSIDE of the barrel and has no effect on performance what so ever.

The ONLY "option" (available on select barrel types) which has any performance benefit, is the "widget" option. These are similar to ball detents which help prevent balls from rolling out of the barrel at unwanted times when the gun is pointed downwards...

"Widget System holds the ball in place until firing. No more roll outs."

Anyhoo, here is what Palmer has to say about his barrels, and the link from where to order/view the barrels:

http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/online...og/barrels.htm

"Achieve extreme accuracy with these custom made solid brass barrels. Brass provides the least friction against gelatin and the best opportunity to get it shaped and finished properly. The texture and shape of the bore are both important to consistency and effectiveness. The way that we set up barrels here depends on the gun and its use. However, the basic concept is based on a shape that is slightly elliptical. A little tighter at the breech and muzzle than in the center section of the tube. The specific dimensioning will vary with the type and setup of the gun. We have had good results with shaping to meet the basic need of guns by brand but will usually achieve better results when we have THE specific gun to work with. Wedgits can be use with pumps and closed bolt paintball guns. Nickel plating and or powder coating is only on the outside of the barrel with polished raw brass on the inside."

And of course, where to order:

https://www.palmer-pursuit.com/ecom/index.php/cPath/60?

BTW, PPS makes these at a standard 12". Craig Plamer stated that 12" is optimum for pretty much every situation and marker using his barrels. The WILL, however, custom make you one which is longer or shorter then 12" uppon request.

if you have any other questions, just call PPS. Last time I did that I even talked to Craig him self over the phone! He spent half an hour working out a marker problem for me, even though it didnt have anything to do with one of his products! His shop has A+ customer service.

-Joe
Conclusion: You arenít going to be able to find a more reliable and accurate barrel for the money or even for more money. This barrel does everything that an entire barrel KIT does. It shoots as straight as the most expensive barrel out there and shoots every kind of paint as well as the best barrel KIT out there... all in ONE SINGLE BARREL PACKAGE. And it does all of this at 1/2 to 1/4 the cost of said barrel kits.

BUY THIS BARREL! YOU WONT REGRET IT!
Rating:
10 out of 10Last edited on Wednesday, April 25th, 2007 at 11:14 am PST
 

Review Comments
RickLiebespach Friday, April 13th, 2007 | 3:51 am PST
I noticed that they offer sever different bore sizes... on their "off the shelf" barrels.
(.685, .690)
What size did you get? Do you ever think you should have gotten the other size?
   

MisterMister Wednesday, April 25th, 2007 | 11:12 am PST
quote:
Originally posted by RickLiebespach
I noticed that they offer sever different bore sizes... on their "off the shelf" barrels.
(.685, .690)
What size did you get? Do you ever think you should have gotten the other size?


They offer a standard size of .688 That, combined with their elliptical bore affords the end user the widest amount of use. You can literally shoot ANY size paintball. I highly suggest you get the standard size barrel and not the "custom" sized ones.
   

bvdave Thursday, September 27th, 2007 | 10:17 pm PST
I always use the exact same paint, have for years and will for years to come, its .689-.690 so i got mine in .689 with widget for my cocker, cant wait to try it out this weekend then I will be writing my review, this will be the 6th barrel I have tested in the past few months, looking forward to seeing the results :)
   

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