Trilogy pro is just as good, just nowhere near as fast, the a-5 is as accurate and more user friendly (a little more) and the 98c just doesn't stack up. The Ion is pretty much the same
Trilogy Pro SF
HALO B w/ rip drive
stock barrel (mini Kaner kit)
20 oz. CO2 with remote coil
HALO B w/ rip drive (only hopper that can keep up with this thing)
Nitro tank (CO2 causes too many velocity spikes and is just inconsistent)
Freal barrel kit because the mini Kaner only has a .687 and .689
Ease of Cleaning
looks really nice
differnent rates of fire
Changing the rof
I'm just going to first say that this thing shoots incredibly fast for three hundred dollars. I put the ramping mode on and started firing. I had to just fall to the ground laughing. It's hilarious how fast this thing shoots. I can get 18 bps without even trying. That is with the eyes on too. If I knew how to turn them off I would get a few more I think.
In semi auto it doesn't shoot that fast. It's hard to walk the trigger and I don't know why. I know I can walk a trigger too because I have done it several times on my buddy's Ion. Unless you're at a tournament don't worry about it. I just put it on ramping mode.
It's super easy to clean. Just take off the barrel and and run a cable squeegee through it to get all the big glops of paint out. Then run a swab through it. Take out one pin that's is pretty big and hard to lose, and pull the bolt out. Run the swab down the gun and lubricate the bolt o-rings with lithium grease or whatever it is that the Worr recomends. Replace the bolt and pin and put three drops of synthetic marker oil in the ASA and fire it with the air source about twelve times. I think all this takes under a minute to give you an idea of how easy it is.
As far as looks, it has a sweet glossy black finish with chrome accents. It's really nice looking. I have a HALO B on it and it looks awesome with the black. It matches perfectly.
The different rates of fire are nice too have. Semi is probably about 10 bps. Don't try to walfk the trigger to go fast though. It's easier to just use one or both fingers at the same time as fast as you can. The B ramp I've already talked about and the TA ramp doesn't really do anything different or at least I haven't figured put how to use it. Full auto is activated after three evenly spaced trigger pulls and holding on the fourth. It's not as fast as ramping but still fast at 15 bps.
There is an adjustable trigger. I have not tried to adjust it because somewhere on the web I read that you have to adjust something else once you do this but don't quote me on that.
It's also pretty lightweight. I don't think I'm all that strong and it isn't that heavy.
There are of course a few down sides, but nothing really big.
Too change the fire mode you have to take off the grip. It doesn't take long but you have to have an allen wrench handy.
The feed neck in a few words really makes me angry. It only fits one hopper. I think it's the evolution or something like that, but it didn't fit my HALO. You'll have to do one of two things. Either buy a threaded clamping feed neck or sand down the hopper to fit. This took me about four hours total and a lot of sand paper. My brother took a short cut by taking a razor blade to his. He broke a whole bunch of blades and his hopper neck looks like crap, but it fits great.
The battery also fits very tightly in that little compartment. Just tuck the wire under the battery and you'll be fine.
And of course the walking the trigger which I've already talked about.
(one thing I forgot about. To make it shoot super fast in the B ramp mode you have to turn it on. When the little light blinks red you know you are in the right mode. On mine it wouldn't shoot as fast as people were saying. Just push and hold the button until it goes orange/yellow and then let go. This should make it go faster.)
I would suggest this. If you are looking for a tournament quality gun that with a lot of flexiblity (rate of fire, using CO2 or N2, etc) then this is a great gun. I love it. My friends cower in fear when I rain down paint upon their heads. If you're planning on playing in a lot of tournaments then the Ion might be a better choice. I like this better than the Ion and I've used both. If you do get one, I suggest getting an allen key set as well as the upgrades listed above. I give it a 9 because it's perfect except for a few very minor things.
9 out of 10
Last edited on Sunday, March 4th, 2007 at 3:25 pm PST
Thanks for the feedback fellas. The manual doesn't explain anything except newb stuff like adjusting the velocity and how to screw in your air source. Really though you just have to screw in the little screws in the trigger. And also thanks for telling me how to turn off the eye.