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PBfire1 Tuesday, March 6th, 2007
Period of
Product Use:
Less than a month22 of 24 people found this review helpful.

2 years
Products Used:
Marker Setup: Primary- PMR, NDZ ASA, NDZ Back Cap, NDZ spring detents, NDZ Clamp, Bob Long Players Autococker Barrel Kit , Halo B, HPA

Back up- A5, Response, Flatline, Tipp Expansion Chamber.
Look Below
Strengths: Quite accurate stock
Easy to clean
Weaknesses: Battery wires (For most)
Back cap (For some)
Eats air
Review: The owning of this marker started with the first game I used with my a5. I couldn't get it to work and I needed a marker fast. I went up to the pro shop and I had been looking at the PMR online for a couple of weeks. I asked if I could try it out and he let me. The first thing I noticed when holding it, which like many other people, was how light it was. I couldn't believe it. It felt very light but at the same time very sturdy. I aired it up, slapped on a halo and let her rip. I thought it shot just as fast as my friend's timmy. I purchased it and went out for the last couple hours of speedball. I ran into a couple of problems with breaks. Not to many though. I will blame it on bad field paint. Since then I have not had problems with breaks.

I have not had problems with the backcap. I honestly think this is a users fault if they strip it. Just hand tighten the cap as far as you can and put in the appropriete allen wrench and just do a 1/8th of a turn. I have taken appart and put together my marker probably 20 times and I have not had one problem with the backcap.

Next I will talk about the battery wires. These seem to be a problem with some PMR's. When I first put in the battery I noticed they they look almost like they were coming out of the board, probably because they were almost coming out of the board. They did break on me and I just sodered them back in place. I called up dye and they are sending me a new replacement piece. Sucks but I had the gun back up and operational in about half an hour.

This marker seems to be a bit tough on o-rings but not much worse than anything else I have seen or owned.

Eating air is probably my main problem with the marker. I can get MAYBE 175 balls per 1000 psi. I am not sure if this problem is accross the board or I need to look at something with the marker. I just hate filling up the marker every other game.

Since owning this maker I have had a couple problems with it not wanting to hold air. This was due to a worn O-rings. This might not be a problem for some of you because you might not be using your marker as much as me. I put AT LEAST 2000 balls though it a week, sometimes A LOT more. If you're like me then go buy a O-ring kit right away... actually everyone should buy this kit cause if you can't play because you don't have a stupid little o-ring then that would feel like a kick in the nuts.

~Bob Long Players barrel kit~ It just makes this maker that much better to play with. If you have the money to play with then do it!

~NDZ spring detents~ It just makes me feel better about the marker lol :) No need to do this mod.

~NDZ metal back cap~ I will still say no need to do this either.

~NDZ feedneck~ I love it.

~Hater Sauce lube~ I recommend this lube to anyone using this marker. Clean and lube your marker after everytime you play and your marker will take care of you.
Conclusion: All in all, I think this marker is an amazing marker for the money. A couple of small problems occured but the enjoyment of it makes me look over any of these small things. It shoots ropes and with my Halo B it has no problems hitting 22 BPS. I would love to give it a 10 but with the small problems and the fact that I can't say that my baby is perfect I will have to give it a......
8 out of 10Last edited on Tuesday, June 19th, 2007 at 1:51 pm PST

Review Comments
pbkidion Wednesday, March 7th, 2007 | 4:59 am PST
idk about your air problem my proto rail gets about 225-250 per 1k psi i was getting about 700 shots out of my 72 ci 3k psi pure energy tank if thats all your getting maybe you should call dye, but the reg may need to be broken in when i was shooting paint i was getting about 375 shots out of 1.5k psi. hope you can find some answers.

protoman912 Wednesday, March 7th, 2007 | 3:21 pm PST
the back cap might be a user fault becuse i had tthat problem and i never toched it but i bought it from a store that had already openedned the box and messed with it.

newartist Thursday, March 8th, 2007 | 10:07 pm PST

I get 1200+ balls out of a low pressure Crossfire 68/45 on a good fill. Have you tuned it per the manual?
Last edited on Thursday, March 8th, 2007 at 10:08 pm PST

PBfire1 Friday, March 9th, 2007 | 6:47 am PST
I turned the dwell to 18 and turned the anti bolt stick off. I am doing a bit better now.

pbkidion Friday, March 9th, 2007 | 9:22 am PST
o and the wire thing dont feel bad i had it happen to me aswell and have you got the wiring harness yet and did it cost anything? one more thing how did you soder it i really dont get how you would go about doing that.

PBfire1 Friday, March 9th, 2007 | 9:31 am PST
The wiring harness is being sent to me by dye, free of charge. The wires broke off RIGHT at the harness. I sodered them with a FINE point sodering gun and just a little bit of soder for the positive and negative.

pbkidion Friday, March 9th, 2007 | 4:14 pm PST
o cool i just sent in to dye to get my piece aswell

carlskov Wednesday, February 13th, 2008 | 2:11 pm PST
Um at the expense of sounding like a Super Noob what is the threading for the PMR

hollywood53 Sunday, November 2nd, 2008 | 5:38 pm PST
I get about 900 or so from a 45/45 so you might wanna tune that puppy. :o)

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