Comments on MOD 85's Review

MOD 85 Wednesday, May 2nd, 2007 Period of Product Use: Only tested Paintball Experience: More than 5 years Similar Products Used: I have been playing for over 20 years. The ones I have owned wouldn't fit let alone used. Marker Setup: I purchased one of the first 50 L.E.D. Dark Angels. This was one of the first 150 select fire angels in the united states as Warped Sportz had an agreement and you couldn't by a card for over a year. 13 barrels all engraved with diameters and anodized to match. Custom dual tank 68/4500psi cradle. Over $5000 in that gun with custom 1 off mods. Recommended Upgrades: When Rich, (who was the inventor of the force 5) first came out with this gun,i called and talked with him several times. I made the trip, (like 5 hours one way) I also had a double barrel Nasty Typhoon/ Since the Nasty Typhoon is a closed bolt gun like the Cocker, Rich said he could set it up. I left the gun and $1,100 to get it started. Strengths: Rich kept my gun and my $1,100 Weaknesses: You wont be able to have it serviced. Review: When Rich, (who was the inventor of the force 5) first came out with this gun, I called and talked with him several times. I owned a custom double barrel Nasty Typhoon. Since the Nasty Typhoon is a closed bolt gun like the Cocker, Rich assured me he could do the modifications. He was supposed to have my double barrels engraved with scroll work, have the barrels refinished in polished nickel, install a double trigger electronic 45 frame trigger group, do the electronic conversion with the chop eye (not all force 5's had it) and anodize my new grip frame and muzzle brakes the same red to match my Dark Angel. I made the trip (like 5 hours one way) I took a friend along, we both shot several customers cockers. I left my gun and $1,100 cash. I have the receipt still. Rich kept my gun and my money. He would screen his phone calls and not pick up the phone. I made several trips out and the most I ever saw was my torn apart gun in a box. He had chromed the barrels, messing up the tolerances, the barrels were never engraved, no other work had been performed and that was over a year later. I won a small claims settlement and have the paperwork to prove it. I went against Rich personally and Sandridge paintball and never saw any of my money or gun. I heard Rich later sold the name and rights, but never got anything from that either. The inventor was dishonest, I don't think it is manufactured any more so if it brakes your not going to be able to have it fixed, and to those who say it will out fire an Angel?? the newer L.E.D.s that were slowed down and later made semi, but at an adjustable rate of up to 21 balls per second on my L.E.D., not on your life... Only thing that runs that kind of rate besides what I have is 25 rounds per second from my old Mod 85 at 440 feet per second. Conclusion: I liked the guns I shot at his shop, but the parts for the modification came out of the Brass Eagle Rainmaker. Rating: 1 out of 10

Vlocitymaster Tuesday, September 25th, 2007 | 1:22 pm PST Mod 85, I would like to talk to you about Rich and the date of sale for the original Sandridge autococker. Please e-mail to me your telephone number.