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fcatman Friday, May 11th, 2007
Period of
Product Use:
6 months3 of 3 people found this review helpful.

Paintball
Experience:
More than 5 years
Similar
Products Used:
Electronic markers used:
JT Protium
Spyder Pilot ACS
Marker Setup: Autococker Trilogy Pro SF
Mini-Kaner barrel kit
Vlocity Jr.
C02 (for now) on remote hose (see review)

Spyder Rodeo
J & J Edge barrel kit
CO2
Zap / Archon Hopper gravity fed
32 Degrees spring kit
Evil Delrin Bolt / Stock bolt with venturi removed
Bandit high flow valve

ACI Griffin with stock everything (Was my backup, but it's worn out)
Zap / Archon Hopper

Syndicate Paradox ELE
Spyder Rodeo stock barrel, maybe my J&J Edge kit
Zap / Archon Hopper (The Revvy on this marker would be ironic)
32 degrees remote thick hose
Recommended
Upgrades:
More barrel sizes. Dang the supplied ones are SMALL. Really limits paint you can use.
Strengths: Inexpensive (relatively)
Can run on C02 if need be.
Antichop eyes.
Weaknesses: Exposed macroline hoses.
Slightly weak grip covers.
Review: What a step up from other markers used!

First let me say that I had some problems out of the box, so if I may tell you what I had to do to get everything working smoothly first: Buy a force fed loader, enough said. Also adjust your cocking rod so that the bolt can travel back far enough for a paintball to fall into the breach. Also, don't try to use CO2 unless anti siphoned or on a remote hose - The internals will get cold enough to start messing you up (pressure drops, bolt doesn't go back far enough not to chop balls, may not recock, etc..

GOOD:
-Inexpensive / good value for the price range. (Paid $219.99) Now even cheaper!
-So smooth shooting.
-Insanely fast vs. other markers I've used (even on semi mode).
-Antichop eyes.
-CO2 efficient.
-Simple to use electronics. Yeah the modes are set by switches, but everything else is really K.I.S.S. based. Once your modes are set (for me semi auto does the job), just one button on the outside does it all.
-No rechargeable battery. My preference is to keep a spare battery around versus trying to keep track of a charger, etc....

BAD:
-The eye logic. Apparently, if there is a fault with the eyes, or no ball is detected, here is what happens: The marker will still FIRE. It wil just cap BPS at 4 balls per second. This may sound good at first, but what this really means is that the marker will let you fire even without a ball in the chamber, you will chop a ball, get the eyes all gooey, then you can just keep on chopping. So in other words, you had better fire really slowly or you had better get a loader faster than the marker. Looks like I'll be investing in a new loader then.
-Exposed hoses. Yes I know that is a necessary element of owning an Autococker. But still, I'm afraid of breaking it off at the fittings. Luckily they supplied an extra length and every proshop sells it.
-loose fitting grip covers (I mean gaps are all around). Maybe not so bad for play on an astroturf field, but the rec fields I play at have lots of sand and grit. Even for cleaning out paint splatter I imagine it will be a pain.
-Revvy 12 volt. Ha Ha Ha. Thank goodness for anti-chop eyes. You need a really fast hopper even for semi use. I ended up buying a Vlocity Jr. and it works swell.


Conclusion: Overall it is a bargain but ONLY if an Autococker select fire marker is for you. I sold mine because I didn't like the exposed hoses for woods play and (due to the electronic control) it cycled too fast and frequently I would chop balls unless using the Vlocity Jr. Essentially it was too "nice" for maybe the way i play. For the other side of the coin, see my Autococker Trilogy Tactical review.
Rating:
9 out of 10Last edited on Friday, October 12th, 2007 at 2:08 pm PST
 

Review Comments
cmseagle Thursday, May 17th, 2007 | 2:08 pm PST
"Exposed macroline hoses." You do realize that it's an autococker right?
   

fcatman Thursday, May 17th, 2007 | 9:47 pm PST
Yeah I know, it's a unique thing about them. I had tried an Autococker once before but was not considering buying one at the time. I'll update when I've played with it more and weigh in. I reckon I'll either learn to love it or hate it. I can't really say more or rate it any different until I have used it more. I am hopefull though that I won't abuse it and that it will serve me well. I still have faith that my $219 was not ill spent.

Oops, and I suppose I meant microline not macroline. My bad.
Last edited on Thursday, May 17th, 2007 at 9:48 pm PST
   

mtrap22 Wednesday, May 23rd, 2007 | 7:02 am PST
Hey i see that you have used the spyder pilot. Can you tell me which gun is better. Im looking for a gun that is EASY MAINTENACE. I don't want to keep going to a paintball place to get it fixed and can shoot somewhat fast. not looking for 30bps type quality just enough to light up my friends. Plus accuracy is the syder less accurate. I would appreciate your help.
   

fcatman Saturday, June 2nd, 2007 | 8:25 pm PST
Which is easier maintenance? Coming from a background of Kingman type markers, I would so far have to say the Pilot. BUT - for on the field quick teardown, squeegying, etc... I would say the Autococker. With the Autococker, you just remove the bolt pin and pull out the bolt for cleaning / lubing. With the Spyder markers, you have to pull out the hammer and hammer spring too.
   

luv4WGP Wednesday, June 27th, 2007 | 6:49 pm PST
I have this gun and wondered if you know how to make the trigger return shorter, cause the pull is fine on mine i just need it to come back to my fingers faster.
   

fcatman Friday, October 12th, 2007 | 2:02 pm PST
quote:
Originally posted by luv4WGP
I have this gun and wondered if you know how to make the trigger return shorter, cause the pull is fine on mine i just need it to come back to my fingers faster.

Hmm... Sorry, I don't know. I don't know if the trigger spring is similar to a Spyder, then you could shim it a bit to make it harder.
   

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