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DHallak Thursday, May 24th, 2007
Period of
Product Use:
3 months65 of 65 people found this review helpful.

Paintball
Experience:
3 months
Similar
Products Used:
Tippmann 14" Sniper Barrel
16" C-Series Stiffi Barrel from specialopspaintball.com
Marker Setup: Tippmann X7
Flatline Barrel System
Response Trigger
BSA 30mm Red Dot Site on top of an AR15 Carrying Handle
Commando Airthru Stock
3 Point Tactical Sling
Recommended
Paintballs:
Marblizers
Strengths: Flat Trajectory
Long Range
Very Accurate when dialed in properly
Weaknesses: If not set up right, it is innacurate.
Requires top of the line paint
Review: First off,.. I love my X7 Flatline.

(Before I begin, there is a very good write up by "Invictus" about common faq's for your x7 flatline at this link ---> http://www.x7og.net/flatline-barrel-system/38-flatline-faqs.
html )

Back to the flatline.
In the flatline faq in the above link, Invictus was dead on when he wrote to dial "up" your velocity, instead of setting it high, and trying to dial down to 280fps or whatever,... set it low,.. and then slowly bring up your velocity till your shots are dead on accurate.

I had my flatline set at 275-280fps,.. and at 160ft, 2 out of 3 balls would miss the 12" metal dish that was my target. By setting my velocity low, around 240, and slowly raising it up higher after each single shot, I was able to stop my shots from hooking, and became dead on accurate. Once my velocity got to about 260-265fps,... the accuracy was MUCH more consitant than it was at 280.

Then I spent about 30 minutes taking single shots, then adjusting the red dot site, I now have the marker set up so that at 160ft, whatever my red dot lands on, if I pull the trigger, it's 9 out of 10 hits. No matter how small the target. I set a small bathroom dixie cup 160ft away, raised the gun to my shoulder, let the red dot land on the cup and fired,.. no more paper cup. The 1 ball out of 10 that veers off target now, is by no more then 1ft. Which is still pretty dang close.


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The first time I went out to fire it, I was firing at 280fps (before I read the recommendation on "raising" your velocity".
I was firing at the local paintball ranges target shooting area. It was only 80ft long, and,..... there were 35MPH crosswinds blowing across the range, it was a VERY windy day.

I tried using my 16" stiffi barrel,.. and the balls were flying all over the place, I hit my target maybe 1 out of 10 times on average at 80ft with those winds.
Then I put on the flatline.

8 out of 10 hits on the target. Despite the 35mph crosswinds, the balls would just shoot straight as an arrow to the target 80ft away unhindered by the winds blowing across the field.

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Field stripping the flatline:

People who say that the x7 flatline would be a hindrance because of how long it takes to take off the shroud and barrel to clean it after a bad ball break,.. have no idea what they are talking about.

Most of you have heard of the "thumbscrew" mod, of replacing 3 of the allen headed screws on your x7, so that you can unscrew them faster with thumbturn screws, to allow for easier field stripping. DISREGARD THIS COMPLETELY. It works,... but is still far to slow, and annoying.

WIthout the thumbturn screws,.. when I'd get a ball break, I would have to:
1.) Push the two pins in the foregrip to remove the shroud.
2.) Remove the foregrip
3.) Pop off the magazine clip, to get to the allen wrenches
4.) Unscrew the 3 screws with the allen wrench
5.) Twist and pull out the flatline barrel

Then squeegy. This, would take me up to a minute and a half.

The thumbturn method is the exact same, but instead of having to use an allen wrench to take out the 3 screws, you have to turn larger headed screws with your thumb and forefringer. It saves time,.. it only took me about 20-25seconds to get off the foregrip, unscrew the thumbturn screws, then take out the barrel.

There is a much,.. much,.. much better, and faster way.

You know the 3 screws that it tells you you need to remove completely to remove your flatline barrel? well,... you dont need to.

With your allen wrench, just BARELY untighten them, perhaps a quarter of a turn. That's all you need to do.
Your marker sticks together just as tight, your barrel doesnt fall out no matter how much you run or jump,... just give them a quarter turn.

NOW,.. when you have to field strip the x7 flatline, you:
1.) Push the 2 pins to remove your foregrip.
2.) Pull the foregrip off
3.) Grab the flatline barrel, twist, and pull.

And the barrel pops out. 10 seconds, the same, if not less time that it could take to remove other regular barrels.

TO reinstert it after cleaning, just push the barrel back in, and twist to lock it, then put the foregrip back on with the 2 pins. And your read to go.

The flatline barrel does not have an O-ring at its base where it screws into the marker, so by just slightly unscrewing those few screws, with a good twist and tug, you can take it off, or slide/lock it back into place.

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By dialing "UP" your velocity to your markers flatline sweet spot (mine was at 260-265fps), using very good paint. (I use marblizers), and using a raised red dot site. With just a split second of aiming the red dot, I can peg a person at 160ft away (what my site is set for), with 9 out of 10 shots. With a completely flat trajectory. And,... 35mph crosswinds didnt even effect the accuracy, though that was only tested out to 80ft. That is still extremely good.

I love my flatty.
1-2 shots, 1 kill. vs shooting ropes of paint, or masses of suppressive fire to bunker a person down to shoot them.

My flatline could shoot much farther then 160ft, it shot very accurately as well out to 240-260ft, but i just wanted my sight set closer.

Also,.. there is one last thing. I found that the faster my rate of fire with the response trigger, the more common I would have ball breaks. I have found, that by reducing my response trigger to perhaps 2-3 shots per second that I have no ball breaks, lay down cover and suppressive fire JUST as much as the idiots that are shooting out a case of paint from their guns in 10 seconds, and the exception being, that with my 2-3 shots, I can hit whatever the red dot is on up to 160ft away with my flatline with at least one of those shots, instead of walking in a rope of paint.
(my red dot sight is currently set to zero in at 160ft, short-med range for a flatline).
Conclusion: If your play style demands that you rely more on accurate shots, then shooting thousands of rounds of paint in a game, this is the barrel for you.
If you need extra range combined with accuracy. This is for you.
The flat Trajectory rocks, and Noooooo, the ball doesnt travel slower.

If you spend the time it requires to properly figure out what the velocity sweet spot for your flatline is, as well as combine that with QUALITY paint, (you arent allowed to complain when you buy it, you knew you'd need expensive paint when you bought this barrel),.... this barrel is a completely unfair advantage. It looks cool, disregards alot of harsh wind conditions, and is a must buy for your x7. Don't do the disservice of modding your a5 flatline onto the x7. You ponied up the money to buy the marker, spend 99 dollars and get the flatline designed for it.
Rating:
10 out of 10
 

Review Comments
pbkidion Friday, May 25th, 2007 | 9:14 am PST
The people you refer to as IDIOTS cant shoot a case of paint in 10 seconds and they obviously play airball speedball ect. I play speed ball and im no idiot I play a good paintball for my time playing and you obviously are a newbie that dosnt know 100% of what you are talking about. Yes there are some fast markers out there they are called electros but most fields dont allow any more than 20 bps and noone can load that fast and shoot a case.

Other than that not a bad review just dont bash other types of paintball that will get you into alot of trouble here and on the field.
   

gothebay Monday, June 4th, 2007 | 5:25 pm PST
Hey dude
You say you need a high quality paint would WPN killabees work?
Cheers
   

Mosier Wednesday, June 27th, 2007 | 1:55 pm PST
quote:
Originally posted by pbkidion
The people you refer to as IDIOTS cant shoot a case of paint in 10 seconds and they obviously play airball speedball ect. I play speed ball and im no idiot I play a good paintball for my time playing and you obviously are a newbie that dosnt know 100% of what you are talking about. Yes there are some fast markers out there they are called electros but most fields dont allow any more than 20 bps and noone can load that fast and shoot a case.

Other than that not a bad review just dont bash other types of paintball that will get you into alot of trouble here and on the field.


To be fair, you should not have taken the comment about "a case in 10 sec." literally. It was clearly a sarcastic exaggeration. The point he was making is that to non-tourney players it seems wasteful to shoot so much paint downrange for suppression purposes when far fewer shots would suffice. Especially when each paintball is $$$ being fired away. :)
   

Head Hunter 221 Sunday, October 28th, 2007 | 4:36 pm PST
Well, those people don't have to use marbalizers with their barrels, now do they?
   

Blue_Dragon51 Tuesday, March 18th, 2008 | 2:03 pm PST
You said you have to take the barrel off to clean... you don't. I have a flatline for my A5 and all I do is take off my hopper and run the squeegee through the cyclone where the paint enters. now if you have a q-loader you are screwed.
   

chuck_za Sunday, September 6th, 2009 | 11:36 am PST
Chuck the Flatline in the bin (I did after two years of battling with it), get a J&J ceramic 12" and install an Apex. Then you a) don't get barrel burst and b) if you by some miracle do, you just stop your feeder (or turn your A5 upside down), shot 4-5 shots of gas/air through it and you're going again. No taking off barrels, no cleaning crud, can shoot just about any paint on the market with great accuracy.

Trust me, I only made this call after two years of taking the pain and aggravation of the Flatline. I have finally seen the light!
   

d_evans777 Monday, November 9th, 2009 | 4:05 am PST
Thank you for your review. It was very insightful!!

Semper Fi,

John
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Receive discount by entering team/player code: 200962546001 during checkout
   

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