Diablo heat, Invert are better but pretty close to the same
Cheap for what you get
You can slide far in them
All I can say is that thses pants are probably the best price for what you get. I payed $97 and they work as good as $170 pants.
The first time u use them they do tend to pick up alot of paint off the ground, but after the first clean they are not to bad at all.
If your a little short on $$$ and want good pants I highly recommend these pants.
They look really good and soemtimes u almost slide too far.
These are really really good pants for the value but nothing is perfect so 9