eTek 2 - F8 lacks same efficiency
eTek - F8 on par
Wrath LTD - F8 far better
Ion (and variants) - F8 blows them out of the water
Black/Red F8, all stock, with a red VLocity and a 68/4500 High Pressure Crossfire Tank.
Other than that I have a madly upped A-5 and a WAS boarded 98 ACT.
As of this moment, I would want nothing other than a freak kit possibly.
- Bang for the buck
- Easy to use
- Can not adjust dwell, debounce
I picked up this wonderful little marker about 2 days ago and have ran about half a case with it. I will post another review in a month or so after I've gone more in-depth with the marker.
What are you paying for:
The F8 comes in a non metal box (unlike ego's or mini's etc) with a two piece cocker threaded barrel (bore .690), a barrel bag (says Dangerous Power on it), a allen key set with all the keys you need, a warranty card, a very basic but yet high quality/informative manual, another on/off, some o-rings, two DP stickers and a Key Chain. Of course you also receive the F8. The box is a basic bow with a carrying handle but seems like it could easily take a beating. A lot of padding (a lower layer, a middle layer and a upper layer)is within the box to protect your wonderful new toy.
The F8 itself is a typical FASOR (Forward Air Spring On Return) much like many double stacked markers. It's bolt is removable, has a non adjustable LPR (Low Pressure Regulator), a lever type on/off, a clamping feedneck (very nice), and a very large curved trigger. Out of the box I easily hit 13-15 bps.
Lets break down it's particular strengths and weaknesses.
The bolt: It is very tiny, incredibly so. Its about the size of my pinky finger length wise (so about 1/3rd the size of a normal pencil). It has excellent channels for air and is obviously very very well milled. I ind that on other guns such as the eTek 2 they kind of skimp on the bolt. It also seems very paint friendly. I fired off a pod of horrible paint below freezing at probably 10bps without one chop.
The feedneck: It is a wide feedneck but it does the job. It is very short but not to short. Does a excellent job of clamping on to my VLocity. No mill marks at all. Need no allen keys to adjust it either, just take your hopper off and adjust the knob with your fingers.
The on/off: One of the things that stands out about this gun is it's on/off. It is a lever style on/off and is very easy to gas up the gun. De-gassing it though takes some practice. It bleeds air very very quickly because of the snappiness of the lever.
The barrel: Its a typical kind of barrel you would see on a mid end gun. Its large bore so you most likely won't break paint unless it is really big or very bad. It comes with a o-ring on it an reg d doesn't shake loose even at high rates of fire. It seems decently accurate as-well. I wouldn't recommend upgrading it until you have broken in the and are using premium paint, that ay you can best judge the barrel's effect on the paint.
The reg (aka HPR): One of the things you will notice is that the reg is very very small. It is also very well milled and out f the box was between 230 fps and 248 fps. After it is broken in I expect wondrous things from the reg. Its recharge rate is also atleast acceptable. Shooting a pod through it at high speed it seemed to have no drop off at all.
The trigger: Very large curved trigger. Adjusts from the left side just above the gun. Both adjusters (hex screws) effect pre and post travel allowing for you to pretty well sweet-spot the trigger. It is very well milled and is held in place by a long hex screw as opposed to a pin you bang into place. It does have a spring in the grip frame that deals with how heavy the trigger is but to me it feels... comfortable. The board uses a optical switch to fire, so there is no microswitch to have the trigger push off of.
The trigger guard: Very well milled and massive. Anyone any height can walk this gun to my belief. I myself I'm 5"7 and it is fine, even my friend who is 6"4 has no problem with it.
The grips: Sit perfectly flush with the gun
The board: Having only two buttons (top one for power, lower one for the eyes), a series of switches on the board (that control your modes) and a battery connector that is very easily accessed. The board is a cake walk, very very user friendly. Its simple but not to simple.
The detents: The F8 uses two ball bearings with springs as detents. Not been a problem yet but if I ever experience a break with paint, I'll remove one detent, see if that helps.
The eyes: Very easy to clean, just pop off the eye covers (make sure you don't loose the springs or bearings) and clean with a piece of toilet paper or q-tip. Pop back on and your good to go. Seem to have at the very least, suitable eye logic. Furthermore the canals for the eyes on the eye covers are perfect. You will never pinch yours eyes unless you are careless.
The milling: The milling on this gun is extreme. It is very light and damm sexy. Not one mill mark, scratch or dimple. Flawless.
Take down: This gun is very very simple. It has a very easy takes down (takes 2 minutes to pull out the ram assembly, the fake "LPR", valve seal etc, bolt, eye covers etc. Taking the grip frame off the main body is very easy, very long wires so lots of space to play with if you don't pull out the connector from the solenoid to the board (very easy to do). Only a battery wire, eye wires and a solenoid wire. Not much to damage.
Now to the two cons. No gun is perfect.
The LPR: None, so those tinkerers out there can't mess up their gun.
The board: Can not adjust things like dwell or de-bounce. Not that it really needs to be changed.
Note: I will continue to add information as my experience with this gun increases.
If you don't want to buy a eTek or eTek 2(although this easily compares to one), want something more than a mini and really like a stacked tube design, this is the gun for you. I'd recommend them to most players both moderately experienced and above.
9 out of 10
Last edited on Saturday, March 29th, 2008 at 4:37 pm PST