These all aren't similar-ICD Promaster, Bob Long Classic, Tippmann 98c, Spyder?, Sim-4, 03 Autococker, WGP Sniper 2, Works E-Bladed autococker,Pirarna, VM-68.
These are Similar- Ion, PMR, FEP Quest.
All stock parts(for now) 48/3000 tank, Apachee hopper.
Trigger and maybe a new barrel but stock one is fine.
Feels light, balanced, fast, accurate,no kick Rest in the review
TRIGGER! Ribbion eyes.
I Start from the begining. The packaging that the gun came in was your Proto/dye type boxing. Small square box with 2 layers of goodies. When you open the box the gun is on top and under the layer of foam the gun is on there is a manual, barrel condom, a parts kit, repair kit and a some dye slick lube. Also come with a peice of macroline.
Manual is like any other Proto/Dye manual. Good discription of what to do and how to do it. Tells you how parts work and what they are for. Also lots of info on board adjustments and other adjustments. Good manual overal.
I love the feel of this gun. When I picked it up the first thing I noticed was how light it was. Then I noticed that it felt very balanced because alot of the weight is over the center of the gun. The gun being as balanced as it is makes it feels lighter. The grips are Proto Stickies or something like that. They are fairly comfortable but noting can beat the comfort of Dye Stickys. It is also feels very easy and stable to hold. It also has a good point and shoot feel.
I will not lie to you. I hate the stock trigger. I would much rather have a normal blade trigger than that 2 finnger trigger expecially since the spot of the "lump" is low on the trigger and that where I usually have my fingers but It is still walkable. The trigger has a smooth pull but it is a little heavier than I expected because of the return spring. It is a pain in the neck for me to adjust my trigger because you have to remove the trigger frame from the body to get at the adj. screws. The trigger is internally adjustable. The Board is good. It has 3 or 4 modes, anti-stick bolt, adjustable trigger sensitivity, bps, and dwell.
I love the feedneck. it is very easy to adjustand it is low. Just turn a thumb screw and you are ready to go. The on/off is also easy to turn on and turn off with air. the reg is a hyper 2 and is pretty consistant. And the buttons are so easy to push. I dont like the ribbion eyes because they are to easy to rip.
The gun has almost no kick. When I was shooting it I noticed no barrel rise. The grouping was very tight. I wasn't able to shoot to fast because I hadn't adjust the trigger yet. Barrel was very accurate with the paint I was shooting. It is a bit of a gas hog though. It gets like 1300 out of a 68/4500. but this can be easly improved. It was also very quite.
The V.S section.
Minion V.S Pmr- Minion wins b/c no plastic parts, better trigger, less kick, better stock feedneck, asa, grip.
Minion V.S Fep Quest- To close to call. I think Minion has less kick but the quest is more effiecent and it is harder to find parts for. Both about the same weight, shoot same speed. Like I said before to close to call.
Minion V.S Ion- Minion wins by a land slide even against highly upped ions.
Minion V.S Promaster- Minion wins. Much less kick, lighter, better feed neck, better board. But I love the feel of the Promaster trigger.
I'll be editing every once in a while to get in more info.
Gun has a good feel shoots ropes now that I have adjusted the trigger but still would like to get a new trigger. fairly efficient about 200+ shots per 1000 psi in a 45/3000. Love this gun definately a keeper. Review remains the same.
I would recommend this gun. It is a Proto M7 with more milling so it is lighter. I love it. I got it new off ebay for 255 and Nothing in that price range can even touch it. Evil is no more so that is why they are so cheap but Kee will do warrenty stuff. Would give it a 10 but nothing is perfect and there is room for improvement in this gun.
9 out of 10
Last edited on Tuesday, July 15th, 2008 at 12:44 pm PST
how dose a minion have a better board than a promaster a promaster will shoot as fast as your hopper can load but over youur review is pretty accurate at least your not like some idiots bragging about their 200 dollar tippmann piece of junk