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zensins Thursday, July 17th, 2008
Period of
Product Use:
Less than a month46 of 46 people found this review helpful.

Paintball
Experience:
More than 5 years
Similar
Products Used:
Warped Sportz Rocky Cagnioni Angel IR3
A5 w/too many upgrades to name
DM4
06 MacDev 'Borg
Marker Setup: Dangerous Parts G3 w/updated APE stock board
Vlocity Jr. w/Gangsta chip (not installed for this review)
4500/45ci Angel Air tank with no-name $50 reg.
Recommended
Upgrades:
DP's new "stock" APE board ($35 if it didn't come stock on your G3)
CP trigger
$3 Macro fittings
Strengths: Super-simple operation
Bolt out back
LIGHT & TIGHT
Clamping feedneck
RAPS ASA
Weaknesses: Macro fittings suck
Trigger is fast but cheap
Review: There are endless videos of the G3 blowing out a hopper of paint at 25 BPS. Most look like people who stepped out of their nice air conditioned house shooting great paint into a box in their manicured back yard or driveway. Then, there's the real world. Try 94 degrees woodsball in North Florida with around 100% humidity. Best fill I could get on my 45/4500 was 2500 psi. I'm keepin' my paint in the shade, but it's 94 in the shade.

I was feeding my G3 with a stock Vlocity Jr. using 18bps PSP 3 shot ramping. I went through about a case of Proball, alternating between woodsball and recball. This was my G3's debut. My marker is straight stock, with stock barrel and the newly improved APE "stock" board with all "default" settings except MGRF and Firing Mode, this includes the dwell.

Things started out rough, blowing the DP stamped macro fitting's sleeve, sending it flying. I had read a thread on PBN started by another G3 owner complaining about that, so I double-checked the macroline to make sure it was fully inserted. It still blew off. I am 95% sure it was seated all the way in. Interesting note on this is that I had only gassed it up with about 500 PSI previously, and had no problem. I would guess that 850 PSI blew it where 500 PSI could not. Anyway, having read about the problem, I was half expecting it and had packed a spare 90 degree fitting just in case. 3 minutes later I was gassed up again. The macro fitting on the reg wasn't sealing right with the piece included in the box, so I threw on a slightly longer piece. That solved the problem.

After that minor glitch, I put it on the chrono. +5/-5 Frankly that's fine for a crispy new reg that hasn't been broken in yet.

I walked out onto the field for the first time and took a test shot about the width of the field and was able to put 2 out of the 3 shot burst on a 2X4 with the other two balls (1st + 3 shot) missing it by less than an inch. That's with the stock barrel. Mainly I was happy with how well the gun "fit" me. I had to sell an Angel IR3 because I just wasn't accurate with it. The gun was accurate, but I couldn't snap up and hit my target with it. Not so with the G3. It was like it was built for me. Even with the stock barrel, accuracy was surprising. I brought a Freak kit out but left it in the car all day. I didn't trust my paint tolerances and decided to err on the side of no breaks since the accuracy was already impressive.

The rest of the day: Perfection. From snapshooting around the snake on the recball field to ambushing people in the woods, it performed flawlessly. God help anyone peeking at me from behind a tree at 75'. Not a single ball was broken in the barrel, hopper, or gun. I did not use a squeegie even once. Not a single shootdown. Not a single FSD. Nothin' but nasty 3 shot groups that were taking out hands, hoppers and goggles. I ran out of air ONCE but with 45ci at 2500psi, what did I expect. A 68ci tank is in my near future. But the point is, consider the conditions. We got to the field late, around noon, so our table was in the noon-day sun. So the flat black G3 is sitting in the sun with a half-full black hopper of paint on top. I put a bag over the hopper to try keep it out of direct sunlght, but who am I kidding. Humidity is so bad that on the first game the guy next to me with the SL8R got shot out before he could get a shot off because his thermal-lensed mask fogged up. So after 3-4 hours, there's no way that paint is in good shape. Plus, I was mixing in some "medium grade" paint from 2 months ago that I still had in my pods. The G3 shot it all without the tiniest hic-up. Also, it was just so LIGHT. With the Vlocity Jr. and 45ci tank it was by far the lightest setup I've ever picked up. Carting it around the woods, holding it steady for long periods of time, like when posting... By the end of an insanely hot day lugging my A5 around gets old. The G3 was featherlight in comparison, and yeah, it made a difference.

It did have a little bit of kick compared to my DM4. It was loud compared to the SL8R, but I wouldn't say it was "loud". The A5 is far louder, even with the low pressure kit installed. I'm pretty sure my Angel IR3 was about as loud.

-- UPDATE --

I have owned my G3 for around a year and a half now. It is still performing beautifully, and I have not given serious though to buying a new marker. I bought an 06 Ego as a backup and installed a Zick Kit in it. After using it a couple times it now sits unused. It works great, it's just not my G3.

The CP trigger is the only upgrade I have done to the marker aside from the improved reg part free from DP, the $30 stock replacement board from DP (both standard in the G3 SE by the way), and the macroline fittings. The CP trigger is DA BOMB and really "finished" the marker in terms of making it perfect for me. I have been accused of ramping while in semi using this trigger. If anything ever happened to my G3, I would buy another G3. Maybe an SE, but I'd still put a CP trigger in that one, even with the "improved trigger". Nothing beats a bearing.

There have been no mechanical problems with the marker, at all. The sail o-ring needed to be replaced a couple months ago, but that's no surprise, since most of the stress of operation lands on that one o-ring. It did last over a year. So if your G3 starts giving you any crap, replace the battery, and if that doesn't work, swap out the sail o-ring on the bolt with the replacement that comes in the box. That has been the extent of my troubleshooting on this marker. No calls to DP service. No need to send it in.

The G3 continues to perform great, shooting whatever paint I put in it without breaking, to the point that I don't bother to carry a squeegie on the field most games. No first shot drop. No shootdown. I never replaced the stock reg after installing the upgraded part supplied by DP. Some say it needs a CP reg. My experience says that's just bull.

Design: Take a look at xluben's animation of the G3's (Threshold) operation and you can see why this marker is giving me no trouble. It's simple simple simple. I'd post the link but the rules don't allow it. Google xluben threshold animation. Then take a look at some of the other design animations. It's self-evident, even for people with no technical experience. Why DP doesn't point this out is beyond me. Poppet valve designs are supposed to have less o-rings than spoolies. Not true here. The G3 design is the most simple poppet valve design I have been able to find.

Efficiency: The 68 cubic inch tank was a welcome improvement over my 45. Mainly that's because my local field fills from SCUBA, and 2500 PSI in a 45 CI tank doesn't last long with a spoolie, and the G3 is no exception there. However, I typically get 2-3 average-length games out of my 68. Most people have a 68 so this really isn't an issue.

Cost: At $300, you can't beat this marker. It was a bargain at $430. Durability & reliability have been phenomenal. There has been no anno wear. The marker looks like it is still brand new, but I do take care of my equipment. It shoots like it did straight out of the box, except a bit more consistent over the chrono now that the reg is broken in.

Two other players at my field have bought a G3 based completely on how well mine has performed. One sold his PMR, the other was a new player upgrading from a Tippmann. Both love their new markers.
Conclusion: Buy it. Just do it. If you have any probs, check the Dangerous Power forum on PBNation. DP actually has a tech monitoring the forum (DPServiceBrad) answering questions. If he can't solve your problem, he will personally handle your return and make sure things are done fast and right. This company actually CARES about you. For $300, you can't beat this marker. You can't beat it for twice that, seriously. Forget the Mini. Forget the PMR. Forget the etek. Forget any of the half-plastic garbage other companies are selling and get this. You will be shooting DARTS instead of spending time on the sidelines cleaning your gun. Simple as that.
Rating:
10 out of 10Last edited on Sunday, November 29th, 2009 at 4:11 pm PST
 

Review Comments
PaintElite8888 Thursday, July 17th, 2008 | 3:28 pm PST
I think DP uses cheap imported macrofittings. I had this same experience with both of mine on my Fusion.
   

dpg3 Wednesday, February 4th, 2009 | 3:48 pm PST
would you get this or the mini, dp fusion, or a proto 08 slg?
   

nathan0317 Thursday, May 21st, 2009 | 7:56 am PST
yea i live in florida to. its hard to keep the paint good. my g3 got a leak where the asa and macro line holder goes. should i just get a new macroline connector
   

zensins Sunday, November 29th, 2009 | 3:17 pm PST
I don't know if DP has upgraded the macroline fittings on the G3 SE, but, yeah just dump the macroline connectors on both the ASA and the reg and just put stock, everyday fittings on it. They only cost like $3 and most fields carry them and will swap them for you since it's a VERY easy procedure.
   

snigloid Sunday, May 2nd, 2010 | 9:30 pm PST
What paintballs are some of the best but affordable paintballs to use with a brand new 2009 g3? affordable being no more than 50
   

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