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bvdave Friday, August 1st, 2008
Period of
Product Use:
1 year81 of 81 people found this review helpful.

Paintball
Experience:
More than 5 years
Similar
Products Used:
BT delta elite
Autococker
Marker Setup: Flasc Double threaded Barrel with Fake screw on Suppressor and Screw on Apex tip backup
Flasc Paintball Rip Clip Adapter
BT Rip Clip
Delta furniture and mag
Quick Disconnect sling mount on rear of furniture
Palmers Male Regulator screwed into ASA
TechT MRT Bolt and Spring kit
Recommended
Upgrades:
Flasc Double Threaded Barrel
Rip Clip
Remote Line
Double trigger Kit
Strengths: Looks awesome
air efficent
Great board
Selector
No air lines
great stock
rails
Weaknesses: Not a fan of Stock Trigger
Review: Ok so I just got my TM-7 today. First thing I did was take some pics and go to my barrels to see what fits.

Fits
Flasc Barrels
Palmers Brass
Lapco Apex ready Bigshot
Redz
CP one piece
Freak (newer models)

Does not fit
Winforce
Freak (older models)

Thatís all I tested for barrels so far, I will add more when I test more out.

The TM-7 also comes with the best marker toolkit I have ever seen, rather then tiny allan keys it h as nice long easy to use allan keys, a back plate for your stock if you wish to remove it (sp shoulda done this with the sp1) it also has a duracel battery, spare screws, lots of orings detents spring and even a very cool little container of grease! fantastic, and not to mention a cool carry case for all of this stuff instead of the standard plastic baggie

The marker itself is constructed very well. it looks great, I love the no airlines and the battery door is just fantastic, no wires to deal with and changes in seconds, literally! I love it!

The side rails are removable which is a very nice feature; however I will be keeping mine on. No plans for them yet but I like them where they are.

the feed neck goes on a bit different then prior BT markers, there is a recess in the rails on top and it clips in from there, if you try and put it on from the front you will be fighting all day long with it. I cant wait to get my Rip Clip on it but alas.. I dont yet have the adapter... Very sad as this marker will look awesome with a rip clip on the side with a LP X7 hopper.

Selector switch, I really like it so far, I dont know what its wear and tear will be like, it doesnít feel like it will be super strong for years to come so I can only wait and see. However I am not too worried because I can see some company making an aluminum upgrade part for it in the near future.

Air, recommended is HPA only at LP, but HP out is fine as well, I have a 56CI 4500 Empire tank with lp kit and stock HP out, I think I will leave it on HP out because I want to try it with my PPS ASA reg I made for my remote (instead of screwing my remote tip into the ASA I screw in my male Stab and it has a remote input on the side, when I finally get my tank 100% full I want to test to see if the double reg setup helps consistency at all, ill post here when I test both ways. (With extra reg and just LP tank)
I like the no hoses as I have stated before, the stock asa. reg looks awesome, I like the bleed underneath, and it seems BT took prior starvation issues seriously as there are 4 (four) input holes in the asa all near the center so no blockage to speak of.
Runs at 200 PSI

Grips - rear grip I like, nothing overly special about it, just donít dislike it, feels good. the front grip is more interesting, I love the foldable design with the button to move it, however its a bit wobbly, I am sure I can fix it with some time and mods when I get round to it.*update, while I did like teh grips I now run a BT Delta mag instead, looks much nicer, but for pure performance the grips are still awesome and do the job well.

Accuracy I wonít say much on because its based more on your barrel then anything and I use a PPS brass, youíd get more info reading a review of the barrel you wish to use. however due to low kick this marker will help keep accuracy on target a bit better then a standard bt, especially if you use the stock.. The one thing you do need to do to keep good accuracy is use good paint!! if you use crap paint and it breaks in the hopper or feedneck and paint gets in the marker you will need to take it apart to properly clean it out. and like any marker a dirty marker = bad performance.

Anti Chop, this marker includes eyes, not something Im used to being used to markers from Tippmann and BT, will be a nice change in the woods I think!
*update* I absolutly love the eyes, after about a year of use I thought id say a few works about them while I make my update, they work flawlessly, and they are very easy to turn off if needed (dry fire, testing etc etc) very easy to use, work great, not a single issue yet with them*

Disassembly is pretty straight forward, once you get the clamshells off you can see that the serial number is also on the inside of the marker which is cool, I did find it weird that it was only found on the reg on the outside of the marker. Also remember, longer screws on bottom, this goes with the body AND the grip frame when putting the rubber sides back on the grip. Its defiantly not a bt-4 inside! It will take some getting used to but it doesnít appear to be overly complicated, just different. also on a side note, donít forget to put the battery door in before you reassemble, if you did however forget (like me) you can get it back in by loosening the rear bolts a bit, so its a bit of a save

when you first get the marker it will sound rather loud (not as loud as a normal bt or tippmann mind you) after you put about a case or 2 of paint through it the marker will "break in" I suggest cleaning and relubing it after your first case and you will find a great increase to efficency and noise, it will get to be an extremily quiet marker once you start using it, so dont be dissapointed if it sounds loud the first time out!

*update* Efficency: I measured my efficency a bit better today then prior guestimates so I wanted to make an update, I today fired 1040 rounds (200 in hopper and 6 full pods) and I only used 2000 PSI on a 70/4500. meaning if I kept going I would have had approx 2300 rounds on a single tank! amazing I was iimpressed, I was hoping for 1700 or so! I also understand as I break it in more it will get a bit more efficent as well!

cost comparison: only a few bucks more then the Delta Elite or the X-7 with E-grip, well worth the extra $20-$50 I would say, this is an awesome marker and I recommend it to pretty much anyone.

*update*
TechT Bolt and spring have allowed me to lower my pressure to about 150 PSI with great results. I havent really noticed much difference in performance, only in lower pressures which allowed me to reduce volume, but I still find best air efficency is still at about 190 PSI, I have sacraficed air efficency for lower volume but I still get fantastic efficency, I use a 110 CI 4500 PSI Tank now with Myth Reg, (anything over 48 on a tm7 I HIGHLY suggest using a remote line) The TM-7 is just AWESOME with the Rip Clip, I played with a Pinokie last week to try it out and after using the rip clip for a few months just nothing compares. Ive had the marker for almost a year now and it hasent let me down at all, works flawlessly, fires great awesome performance and efficency and loads of upgrades are avaiable for it! I just dont have enough good things to say about this marker, its just fantastic! Awesome job to the guys over at BT!!
TechT Bolt and spring have
Conclusion: Great marker by BT, This is what Tippmann should have done with the X7, but BT did it first! I see this marker changing a lot of things for BT and for woodsball in general, the delta and delta elite were great changes as it was but the TM7 will be much bigger Iím thinking. Itís a great marker, well worth the cost.
Rating:
10 out of 10Last edited on Sunday, May 24th, 2009 at 1:20 am PST
 

Review Comments
Finbar Saturday, August 2nd, 2008 | 11:08 am PST
Just a note, the SP1 comes standard with a stockless backplate, you have to get a an adaptor plate to put a stock on.
   

bvdave Sunday, August 3rd, 2008 | 10:28 pm PST
yea I know that, I sell the adapters for sp1 in my store :P what I meant was, it needs an adapter, to use a stock, the TM7 needs a adapter to not use a stock. however the tm7 includes that adapter, where you need to buy the sp1 adapter because its not included.
   

guncollector1 Monday, August 4th, 2008 | 6:56 pm PST
Can you guys tell me about how much this thing ways....say compared to a BT-4 or an SP-8? I'd love to use a cool looking mil-sim like this but they all seem to way a ton.
   

bvdave Tuesday, August 5th, 2008 | 10:43 am PST
without barrel its 2.8 lbs
   

hwyman Tuesday, August 5th, 2008 | 1:40 pm PST
For those that are interested, a PDF of the manual is available on the BT site. Could you comment on the trigger? I got to hold the prototypes at OK D-day this summer. It really is amazing and I agree with everything you said. I personally thought the trigger felt really sloppy, altho the prototype may not have been properly tuned. There is going to be a double trigger kit for it by the way. One of the prototypes was equipped with one. Also, are you using the sling attachment point on the marker? This is an area that showed a lot of wear on the prototypes and was going to be something they beefed up before going to production. Keep an eye on that. Thanks for the review!
   

bvdave Tuesday, August 5th, 2008 | 9:36 pm PST
I have not used the sling mounts yet but they look to be well constructed, i never saw the prototype so I cant compare really.

the trigger has 4 adjustable points so it can be set to whatever you want, I am use dto a blowback style trigger which trips a sear (this marker doesnt have a sear) so it is taking some getting used to, but thats my fualt not the TM-7, its a better trigger design then any I have used, I just need to get used to it :)
   

tippmannater Thursday, August 7th, 2008 | 1:12 pm PST
can any one tell me how much they cost and where to buy one?
   

guncollector1 Thursday, August 7th, 2008 | 3:46 pm PST
you can buy one at actionvillage.com for $399 and no shipping charge or tax.
   

bvdave Friday, August 8th, 2008 | 12:39 am PST
depends where you live, in canada map is 449.99, still cheeper then paying customs fees and the like but still sucks a bit that even with the almost identical dollar were still higher cost in most paintball items
   

garfeild42 Wednesday, February 25th, 2009 | 4:24 pm PST
how is the gun with water is it water resistent so that u can play in the rain
   

bvdave Thursday, April 9th, 2009 | 11:19 am PST
ive never has an issue playing in the rain yet..
   

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