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Warchild71 Monday, August 25th, 2008
Period of
Product Use:
Less than a month4 of 4 people found this review helpful.

Paintball
Experience:
More than 5 years
Similar
Products Used:
PM7 -Heavier and less efficient
Ego6 - heavier, less efficient, louder
Ego7- Less effieicnt, louder
SL66-Less efficient louder
SL8R- Similar size, weight and performance
Marker Setup: Bob Long Vice
Proto PM7
Vlocity Jr
Dye Throttle 68/4500
DXS 48/4500
Python Barrel kit
Recommended
Upgrades:
4c Eye System for $50 more worth every penny

On/off asa if feel you need it
Strengths: Light Weight
Fast
Surprisingly quiet
Accurate
Minimal kick
Efficient (2000 rounds on a 68/4500)
Weaknesses: Lack of owners manual. (download one on PBnation in the BobLong Intimidator Forum)
Review: I got my new Vice recently and took it out for the first to play in the SPPL tournament this weekend and I must say I am really impressed with this marker. Out of the box the gun was ready to use with a slight fine tuning of the velocity to the fields fps. I am a spooler guy and I have always felt that poppits were too loud and full of kick for my taste. What attracted me to the vice was its efficiency. My spoolers are all good guns but they eat up air real fast. My teammates are all poppit whores so I decided to look into one as a backup for when I need more efficiency. Needeless to say, this gun is definitely my main gun now. It has the best of both spooler guns and poppits. I don't know how BL does it.

Speed: This gun is blazing fast, The 4c Eye system is a must. It makes for super smooth shooting in semi auto. You can send ropes of paint effortlessly. The trigger action is really smooth and the shape is slightly agressive so you can get a nice trigger walk. The pull felt fairly light to me but that is a matter of preference.

Sound: I play alot of woodsball and I like to play snake in speedball so having a low sound signature is important to me. I was expecting this gun to be loud. To my great surprise the Vice was really quiet. Stock for Stock the Vice is about as quiet as my PM7.

Accuracy: Excellent. The stock barrel is a .691. I was shooting a tourney specific Draxxus paint which was mearsuring about .689. It was humid so I decided to not use the barrel kit in case the paint swelled up. Even with the bad paint to bore match and with the regs not being broken in yet, the gun was hitting target nearly ball on ball.

Efficiency: I didn't take exact measurements for effiency but I can definitely tell that this gun is efficient. I used my 48/4500 tank and after each hour long game where I threw at roughly 8 pods and 2 hoppers and my tank never went below 1000psi. Now that is efficiency.

Shooting: The gun is a pleasure to shoot. The grip frame is thin and it feels really good when walking the trigger. There is almost no kick which really surprised me and ropes of paint would go where you shoot them with minimal barrel rise.

Weight: The gun is light. Compared to an SL8R the weight different is imperceptable in your hands.

Maintenance and adjustments: The gun is simple to work on. The bolt comes out easily making breech cleaning a breeze. The Tadao Ryujin board is one of the best boards on the market and is easy to use. All the modes you could possilby need are programmed into the board. Different firing modes not your thing? Well consider that the Tadao has the best micro switch sensitivity of any board on the market which means it will pick up every pull of the trigger without a hiccup.

Conclusion: This gun is by far the best deal in paintball. You get a marker that is more efficient than any other marker in production, it is quiet, has no kick, light weight and a Tadao board stock . At $750 they are practically giving it away.
Rating:
10 out of 10Last edited on Wednesday, November 12th, 2008 at 5:42 pm PST
 

Review Comments
guncollector1 Tuesday, August 26th, 2008 | 6:28 pm PST
Great review. I have both this and an SL8R and I will say the SL is slightly lighter and slightly quieter...but for a $1000 difference in price(after adding 4 eyes) It shoots way out of its price range. I'm mostly a recballer, but I lent this gun to a serious player who was out at the field a couple of weeks ago and watched him single handedly hold a position by himself with like 15 guys shooting at him (some with SL8r's and ego's) and he took out about 12 of them before the ref called the game on time. He was able to fire the Vice as fast in semi as I shoot My SL8R ...in ramp. He had been using an angel for years but he said he was going straight from the field to the store to get one...awesome marker and other than the eyes you don't need to add all sorts of ups.
   

Warchild71 Wednesday, November 12th, 2008 | 5:46 pm PST
Thanks. Alot of my team mates run Egos and SL's so I get to use alot of different markers. So far I've played several games with the Vice since the review and it has been flawless. I've noticed that I stopped using my other markers as a result.

quote:
Originally posted by guncollector1
Great review. I have both this and an SL8R and I will say the SL is slightly lighter and slightly quieter...but for a $1000 difference in price(after adding 4 eyes) It shoots way out of its price range. I'm mostly a recballer, but I lent this gun to a serious player who was out at the field a couple of weeks ago and watched him single handedly hold a position by himself with like 15 guys shooting at him (some with SL8r's and ego's) and he took out about 12 of them before the ref called the game on time. He was able to fire the Vice as fast in semi as I shoot My SL8R ...in ramp. He had been using an angel for years but he said he was going straight from the field to the store to get one...awesome marker and other than the eyes you don't need to add all sorts of ups.

   

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