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mako426 Thursday, October 16th, 2008
The accuracy of this review is disputed. Please see discussion below.
Period of
Product Use:
Only tested7 of 10 people found this review helpful.

Paintball
Experience:
1 year
Similar
Products Used:
E-frames?
Marker Setup: X7 Basic
Double Finger Trigger
Hairpin Kit
FLATLINE Barrel
1-point tactical sling
45/4500 Carbon Fiber

Spyder Xtra
Boo Yaah eLCD Frame
Clamping Feedneck
14" Smart Parts Progressive Barrel
Fasta 18v LCD
Recommended
Upgrades:
N/A
Strengths: See Review Body
Weaknesses: See Review Body
Review: I'm reviewing the trigger itself, and not the marker as a whole.

I purchased my X7 awhile back and decided to try the Response Trigger Upgrade.

Picked up the kit at my local store for $65 and went about installing it. Really wish tippmann would make their instructions easier to read. They've got each step in 4 diff. languages and THEN they go to the next step. Anyways..

The installation consisted of removing the trigger assembly, bottom line and disassembling the reciever. It helps to know your gun by disassembling and reassembling a few times beforehand.

The pneumatic cylinder installs in the grip, right behind the trigger. Then you install an air line from the screw hole (just above the cyclone air line) to an adapter. The adapter mounts in one of the receiver bolt-through holes. The adapter connects the external air line to the pneumatic cylinder via some brass fittings. Take your time, brass fittings will strip easily!

After installation I gassed up the maker and went about tuning the trigger. An adjustable screw on the side of the air line allowed for the rate of fire to be increased or decreased.

I noticed that when slightly pulling the trigger, I could fire off one shot. Then if I pulled and held the trigger back further, I would get the 'response' effect (simulating full-auto)

The issue I have with this upgrade is probably only with the X7. I've tested the trigger on the 98 and the A5 and I have to say, both of those trigger pulls are shorter and more solid. The X7 sadly feels 'mushy' and long. (The stock trigger feels less 'mushy' but the trigger travel is still just as long.

This is amplified with the response trigger. Because of the long trigger pull, the 'sweet spot' (where you get full auto) is larger, which means the 'single-shot' spot is much more sensitive. I had a few instances where I only wanted to fire one shot but fired a burst of two or three shots. Not really what I wanted.

Also, because of the long trigger pull, the response effect (where the trigger is forced back to the starting position) was very annoying. It wouldn't be so bad if the trigger travel were shorter like on the A5 or 98. I guess I would get used to it but I still think I would have found it rather annoying.

Key Strengths:

- Works like it's supposed to
- Somewhat easy installation
- No batteries
- Inexpensive

Key Weaknesses:

- (probably only with the X7) long trigger travel on the X7 makes the response trigger annoying
- Instructions are hard to read - would be difficult for someone who was new to working on paintball markers
- Brass fittings - would have liked some sort of plating and/or flat black.

Personally, I just ordered a double-finger trigger and a hairpin trigger kit from TechT so I can get the desired short trigger pull that I want. Cost me just $40.
Conclusion: I would recommend this trigger to someone who wants a higher rate of fire, without batteries and who wouldn't mind having their finger thrown back and forth by the trigger. Because of the poor design of the X7 trigger, the Response upgrade suffers. If you just looking for an easy upgrade for faster rate of fire, look into the e-grip with double trigger. Keep in mind though, it's a woodsball marker, not a speedball marker :)
Rating:
5 out of 10
 

Review Comments
Ace-o-Spades Monday, August 3rd, 2009 | 1:16 pm PST
Dispute:
The purpose of reviewing the X7 Response marker is to review the marker as a whole, not just one aspect of it. It is both inappropriate and unfair to the marker's rating to do so.
   

Friedmoose Thursday, October 8th, 2009 | 5:47 pm PST
Dispute:
What!!! a 5? Are u serious?!

You have only been playing for a year, and u only tested this marker, u dont know nearly enough about this marker to even think about writing a review. I have had this marker for 3 years now and while I admit this gun is not perfect, it certainly deserves 7 at the very least. Seriously kid you got a spyder, u don't even know what a good gun is. You need to put your friends gun down GENTLY! and go back to your walmart gun.
   

Akallabeth Tuesday, May 4th, 2010 | 8:48 pm PST
Review should not be in this area. It should be with the X7 Response Trigger reviews, as the gun itself is not being reviewed, only this person's addition to the gun.

Link to X7 Response Trigger reviews:
http://www.pbreview.com/products/reviews/6051/

   

ericw95 Thursday, July 1st, 2010 | 7:12 am PST
Dispute:
This is rediculous. You don't even own the gun and you are complaining about silly little things that would be easy to get used to after one use. I mean seriously, why would brass fittings be a problem??? If they were flat black like you want, they are just painted brass and the color will wear away in a few uses. Additionally, any paintball gun is confusing the first time you open it up. I own an x7, and it is actually one of the EASIEST guns ever to disassemble completely.
Last edited on Thursday, July 1st, 2010 at 7:13 am PST
   

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