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Nunatak Saturday, December 13th, 2008
Period of
Product Use:
Less than a month9 of 12 people found this review helpful.

1 year
Products Used:
Tippmann A5.
07 PMR w/ UL frame
Marker Setup: Spyder Fasta loader (Reball)
68/4500 PSI
I plan to switch to a RAPS ASA. The Proto ASA is decent, but I love the flip ASA.
Strengths: Value.
Soft on paint.
Smooth action.
Weaknesses: Air efficiency
Review: I've mostly had long term experience with blow forward designs, such
as tippmanns. I recently cameback to playing paintball and picked up a Tippmann A5. But found myself mostly playing speedball, so after 6 months of getting myself
used to playing again, I felt it was time to step up in the ROF department.

I was stuck on several choices for months.
Etek 2, used PM8, G3, 07 PMR w/ UL frame. And then I saw the newly released 09 PMR.
When I saw what they were offering with the marker, and eventually the price. I knew this
was going to be my choice.

I eventually picked the claret colour, mostly due to my soft gear setup, and when I finally
saw the colour first hand, I was very satisfied. The red is a nice dust colour, and the graphite was lighter in colour.
I play reball exclusively from October until May. So I picked up a Sypder Fasta loader. Which dollar for dollar is probably the best loader for VERY used reballs.
I'll probably be going to either a Dye Rotor or an Empire loader with a magna clutch kit.
Although, considering how well the Fasta works, a Pinokio is very tempting.

I waited 6-7k shots before I started to mess with the settings.
The stock dwell is set at 18MS. I tried the recommended 10MS start point
for tuning, and it wouldn't fire. It immediately started to cycle at 11MS but it wasn't pretty.
I increased it to 12MS, but it was still inconsistent, nearly +/- 15FPS.
I jumped it to 14MS, but it was +/- 3. I then dropped it to 13MS and it was still +/- 3.
And that's where I've kept it.

I mostly play in PSP mode. So I haven't been too focused on tuning the trigger for semi-auto walking of the trigger. But the 3 points of modification does allow for tuning
to almost any player's desire. Although I do find the double bow style of trigger harder to walk with, compared to a more straight forward angled one.

And the newly designed solenoid is a very nice change over the 07 PMR with it's 25MS stock dwell setting. I can honestly see myself running at 10MS dwell
once the marker is fully broken in and I switch to a lube with lower viscosity. Which I'm hoping will help ease the only real negative aspect of the marker. Air efficiency.

The manual has PSP and Millenium modes reverse.
And you can set the max ROF to 33.33 BPS on full auto, for the kiddie in all of us!
Stock PSP setting is 13.3 and does indeed have PSP 3 shot, which I use exclusively.
Conclusion: For a mid-range tournament marker, I highly recommend the 09 PMR.
For the price you're paying you are really getting your money's worth.
9 out of 10Last edited on Saturday, December 13th, 2008 at 12:36 pm PST

Review Comments
TPD Saturday, December 13th, 2008 | 5:16 pm PST
Not to be all anal and everything, but one little thing:

Tippmanns, spyders and spyder-clones are actually "blow-back" designs; a spring pushed the hammer/bolt forward, the hammer hits the value stem opening the valve, air is release to the ball via the bolt (propelling it out the barrel) and the hammer (recocking the gun). Blow-back refers to air pushing the hammer/bolt into the recocked position - how tippmanns and spyders work. Air used to propel the paintball out the barrel is also used in this case to recock the gun, where as spring drives the bolt/hammer forward to activate the value.

Auto/Retro/E/Xmags (AGD guns) and Ion-like designs (very obvious with the techt and nano bolts) and DP's G3 are "blow-forward" designs. Basically blow-forward means that the air used to push the bolt into the closed position (forward in the marker) is also the air used to propel the paintball. Unlike blow-back designs, a spring or other airsource recocks the bolt while gas, unlike blow-back designs that use a spring, pushes it forward.

Guns like DP's Fusion line and the now extinct "The One," while using a stacked tube spyder/blow back design, actually employ a hybrid blow-back/forward design: the main valved used is a mod'd blow-back mainvalve (like an angel, ego, impluse, bushmaster, etc mainvalve) and the hammer used is a blow-forward piston thing. Bla.

Not really important. I guess I am anal. Yes. Check out for more info/tech stuff/diagrams, animations, etc.

Spyder and Tippmann Animations:

E/Automag and Ion Animations (and Ion w/ the Nano Bolt) and Threshhold (prototype of G3):
Last edited on Saturday, December 13th, 2008 at 5:23 pm PST

snookhunter Monday, December 22nd, 2008 | 7:08 pm PST
how bps can you shoot on semi auto

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