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matkat Friday, February 20th, 2009
Period of
Product Use:
3 months6 of 6 people found this review helpful.

Paintball
Experience:
More than 5 years
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Products Used:
Anything and everything...
Been in industry since early 90s.
Marker Setup: Dangerous Products G3
Dye Ultralite 14" .688
APE Upgrade Board
Ruthlesspaintball.com Vampire G3 Trigger (derlin, ball bearing, magentic return(like same as in luxe as far as postioning, can do both micro and optical by changing a set screw) - Best triggers EVER... visit ruthlesspaintaball.com all his stuff is custom and made to order.
CP Drop
Halo B
Pure Energy 68/45 Stubby
Dye Tank Cover
Recommended
Upgrades:
Overall fine out of the box...

The Gun is fine out of the box, even for a tourney. I cannot stress how much value this marker has for the money. I am the type of person who would spend the money on a EGO/Luxe/DM9, but after witnessing its performance on a field full of tourney players using those guns and others, I must say I was confident my gun was the best performing on the field. I am not upgrading, this is and will be my gun of choice for a long time to come.

Aftermarket Barrel a must

I think 99% of players, even tourney would be fine with this out of the box and a aftermarket barrel... (Dye, Smart Parts, Stiffi < my reccomendations) 12"-16"

For people wanting to make this the end-all marker (IMO better than Ego/DM/Luxe with these upgrades)

Trigger

A upgrade trigger of any kind unles you got the $499 SE. DP offers a upgrade trigger with less side-side play, IMO they should have offered that with all markers, it feels like they purposefully handicapped it, knowing full well its too small and force you to buy the upgrade. It isn't horrible, but there is obvious side2side play. The gun is freaking awesome, but DP upgrade trigger is no different than stock other than its the right size, which should have been there already, the design is the same... visit ruthlesspaintball.com for some awesome triggers, micro or optical, the right dimensions, ball bearing rotation, magentic or spring retun and many designs and colors, can't be beat. I am telling you visit rutheless... its includes magnets

Board

I don't think most players, even tourney players need the upgrade board, more of a preference of microswitch feel compared to optical and modes that are fun in the backyard, but not allowed in most games and tournaments Semi/PSP mode aside. If your a really advanced player/play tons of tourney/like microswitch, then maybe an upgrade for you. Quite honestly the stock has a few advanatges... simplicity... the dips are easy for anyone to understand, grips must be removed so they are tourney appropriate and it includes most modes anyone would want, Semi, PSP, Full Auto, NXL and millenium. Being optical there are no mechanical parts to fail, so I would say reliability (upgrade boards use microswitch).

However, those of us that want are marker to be MAXED up in upgrades get the....

APE - one DP and my local shop endorse and I own, more than I need $85 retail
Virtue Redefined - few more perks, IMO adds more complextity.. $114 (reccomended by most; I saw no need)
Virtue OLED - Coming soon, same as redefined with a few more features (the list is ridculous long and has a Organic Display

I will say that even the APE is overkill, but I like the microswitch with magnetic return feel... that being said virtue is just too much features and too much money.. the OLED would be great, but it is near 3 times what I paid for my APE... just practically useful instad of memorizing colors and such.

A drop depending on whether your old/new school and your hieght. A nice 2" CP drop allows the barrel to be in line with my eye straight and my nose tilted, it is way more comfortable than the no drop feel. I figure since I shorten the marker 2" with the drop, I can add 2" on the barrel and keep the same marker profile as someone not using the drop with the added advantage of either a longer quiter barrel or a shorter marker profile. Comfort is key, the CP drop works well for me.
Strengths: Lightest Marker
Very Fast
Accurate and quiet /w right barrel
$$$CRAZYPRICE$$$PLAINCRAZY$$$
Simple
Everything
Weaknesses: Stock Barrel/Trigger Could be Better - they are easily upgraded
Review: My god am I impressed with this marker. I went to my local pro shop (I worked there 7-10 years ago) and talked with the owner. I was like where is all the thousand dollar markers, I am looking at getting back into the sport, he handed me the G3 and said he buys them (Ego/DM9/Luxe), but mostly they just sit on a shelf. He explained the guns that compete with this are in the thousands and this will meet my needs. This gun is worth thousands. Thanks DP for offering such a great gun at a great price, paid 330 for mine, they are down to 299.

He proved me wrong, this gun has outperformed any angel, cocker, or mag I have used and I have owned 20+ markers in my time. It is so quiet with the Dye Ultralite you cant even tell its firing, same goes for the recoil. It has no extrenal moving parts or eyes, is very streamlined. It is lightest there is, kind of a mute point i think anything below 2lbs, because your tank and hopper with paint/air wiegh more than the marker, clearly. It has one moving part, the bolt... like fool proof gun, easy to maintenance, upgrade.

There was not an Ego, DM9 or Luxe that outperformed my gun. I was thinking about getting one of the more expensive guns above when I had the money, but after witnessessing its performance and feeling/seeing the perfomance of mine, I will not be upgrading. I acutally really believe it is SUPERIOR to those markers, with the right upgrades although I am sure many will disagree. From what I saw all those guns should be named Ego because thats all they are about... my DP can fire 36bps, but why the hell would I want it to... everyone there was a tourney player and firing a high end electro of some kind, fire rate was locked to PSP13BPS. Fire rate is a mute point in most real fields and tourneys because it is limited. It is quiet, light, accurate, fast, great out of the box, minimal upgrades preffered/needed, feature rich, yet simplistic. I simply can't belive the price point... don't let it feel you with a high end barrel, upgrade board and trigger from ruthless, you will not have any complaints.
Conclusion: Buy this gun...it has cocker threads you can probably use some barrels you already own. If you have a Ego/DM9/Luxe buy this as your backup because of the price point, throw the upgrades on it and it may become your primary. I love it.

If your a rec baller, tippmanns and pball guns that look like real guns are a joke get this, in black, it will blow your friends away, tourney players will not be dissappointed read my review in detail you will see what upgrades are needed for that level of play.

It cannot be beat for the money. IMO it cannot be beat with the right upgrades. For about $500 without air/hopper you can have this thing outperform anything on the market.
Rating:
10 out of 10
 

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