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- B R - Saturday, March 21st, 2009 Period of Product Use: Less than a month 0 of 1 people found this review helpful. Paintball Experience: More than 5 years Similar Products Used: Tippmann A5 PMI Pirhana GTI Marker Setup: Tippmann A-5. Tech T vortex mod, lightning rod, squishy paddles, QEPH, Zero kick Hammer, Polished internals, JCS power tube v3, CAR Stock, remote w/ slide check, Apex tip and 14" Lapco bigshot, 48cu 3000psi AL Proto SLG UL 2009 with DYe Rotor Hopper Recommended Upgrades: -Better lube -Better feedneck...who carries an allen key on the field? -LED status light is invisible in sunlight...maybe a clear gel button would be better? -Lighter bolt (possibly to improve the jam issue?) -Barrel (maybe a J&J Ceramic) Strengths: -Light -Easy for beginners -fast -sleek -good weight Weaknesses: -Cleaning -ball pinching bolt -Gas efficiency -Accuracy / range Review: After putting 2 cases through this marker i found the following: Bad -Cleaning it (should a ball get pinched and go Boom!) is a bit of a nightmare. True you can disable the eyes and continue but you will have no accuracy. The paint will bleed into everything so be prepared to take apart everything from the eye caps to the bolt system. (Makes me glad I got a A5 as backup) The lube from the factory is below par. It actually hardened during its way from the factory to my home. If it is Dye Sleek then I wont use the free bottle from the package and rather stick to TechT lube. 2nd rear bolt o ring was a factory reject as it shed its extra skin during the run-in phase which then clogged the entire bolt system. The plastic silencer also releases its plastic fragment (from the holes). So cleaning this marker after 500 rounds is a must. The rear cap which should clear any jams doesn't work well, often the bolt just refuses to reset itself and you have to de-gas and manually correct it. I'm guessing this was do to the o ring expanding but the replacement did not correct it. Feed thread is quite weak and will strip if you're not careful. Good -The marker can shoot up to 490 rounds before depleting my 48cu 3000psi tank. I dont know if that is really efficient when my mechanical A5 got 800+ shot out of it. But maybe it will improve. The OEM barrel is quite good but players should consider another if they require greater accuracy beyond 30 feet. Setting the marker is quite simple and requires only the removal of one side of the grip to get to the switches. Battery (included in package) has lasted since first being installed so at least it is quite energy efficient (Go Green Power) Conclusion: It is a good marker for beginners and mediocre players considering its price tag of $299, but the manufacturer needs to refine its quality control. There is just too much gunk coming from the internals during run-in and the ever present ball pinching will ruin your game if it doesnt clear. Few upgrades are needed to perfect this one, but once used it really grows on you. Rating: 7 out of 10

tipmn-nthusiast Monday, May 4th, 2009 | 7:53 am PST Hey, I just want to know, since your review has been quite different and harsher than the others (and I appreciate that you displayed the brutal and most honest truth to the cons). I am also a Tippmann owner, hoping that the reviews on the 09 SLG would convince me to get one myself. If you don't mind, could you please provide more information on the problems you were having with the marker (i.e. possible reasons, recommended upgrades to prevent problems, etc)?

- B R - Tuesday, May 5th, 2009 | 8:53 am PST I dont believe in giving a good mark to something that needs this much running in time and attention. The best review would be after 1 year of constant playing. Air Well after settling in my SLG the air efficiency improved somewhat. I am now able to shoot between 500 and 600 rounds on a tank of 48/3000. I also switched to Hater Sauce v2 as my lubricant as the TechT grease also presented its issues. I also serviced the regulator, pulled out all the previous lube gunk and checked that the seat was wearing in. Ball pinching This issue is still present but not as pronounced. After replacing every o ring and seal from a new parts kit, lubing it with hater sauce and trying it out again; I now experience this issue once every 1200 shots, which is a big improvement from 1 in 300. (Same brand of paint by the way). Replacing all rings also assisted in the gun resetting its bolt. Gunk from internals Has stopped. The new silencer attachment has stopped spewing forth micro plastic balls after I used 2000grit sandpaper on it. Easy fix...but this should have been addressed by the manufacturer not the end user. All in all I think I got a bad batch of rubber/lube with this package, which coming from a sub company of the "Holy Grail of Paintball" Dye is a bit worrying. Then again transport to south africa can take its toll on anything. The SLG is a good gun for beginners and those hopping from mechanical to electronic. Just dont expect the easy tippmann "2 drops lube and fire routine". The slg is easy to set up and requires only two upgrades in my opinion: Barrel and feedneck because the latter OEM solution is not the best. A possible laser eye upgrade might also be usefull as it is annoying not being able to see if the eyes are blocked. Hope I was able to help you decide on your next purchase.

tipmn-nthusiast Wednesday, May 6th, 2009 | 10:43 am PST Hey, Thanks a lot for your time to further explain the complications of this gun. This has been the best review for the SLG so far, and I guess I'm going to wait and do some more research before settling with an electronic marker. And who knows, maybe I'll settle for this one in the end. My A5 will do for now and I'll stick to woodsball (I just don't trust the A5's mechanics and its clunky p.o.s weight for speedball).

jjgoforward Wednesday, June 3rd, 2009 | 12:22 pm PST Hey thanks for such a great reveiw of the SLG ultralight. This expains many of my son's problems. I am quite disappointed that Dye?Proto didn't issue some type of recall or something on a problem that is obviously an engineering issue. Keep up the good work. I will be looking at your other reviews in the future.

jjgoforward Wednesday, June 3rd, 2009 | 12:23 pm PST Hey thanks for such a great reveiw of the SLG ultralight. This expains many of my son's problems. I am quite disappointed that Dye?Proto didn't issue some type of recall or something on a problem that is obviously an engineering issue. Keep up the good work. I will be looking at your other reviews in the future.

ITSRAININGPAINT Thursday, June 18th, 2009 | 3:45 pm PST What kind of barrel treads does this gun take?

Weever Saturday, August 29th, 2009 | 3:20 pm PST I'm sorry but I do not believe your A-5 gives 800+ shots out of a 48/3000. I had one, and it is by far the worst marker in term of efficiency. Exept that point, pretty good review.