I got a chance to shoot a 2k Cocker with this electro kit installed on it at a local tournament my team went to on July 1st.
First off, Looks..
Overall, you cant hardly tell its an "electronic cocker" without actually walking up and taking a glimpse of it, or hearing how fast it shoots. It looks like a regular cocker or custom cocker whatever you have the sanrdige kit installed on, with a big trigger guard for some reason and some extra pnuematics. :)
I didn't play with it :-( but I shot it at the chrono for rec ball area since the tourney was held in another open location away from rec ball incase walk ons came or the such, anyhow.. I noticed right away, the double trigger on it... It's very nice, it reminded me of an Angel Trigger. I always loved the looks, feel, pull, and return force of an Angel trigger that is trigger modded to 2-6 mm pulls. The trigger pull on the Sandridge F5 Kit is very nice light, and crisp, overall it gets the job done real fast I'd say. the guy who had one also said the trigger is adjustable, I didnt see that I guess the set screws are inside the trigger similar to an Angel, but that can be to your advantage. Again, its very easy to find the sweet spot in the pull, its not like stand at the chronograph for 30 mins trying to find the nice little spot in that 2 inch trigger pull or the such
Including with a nice pivoting double trigger thats electronic asssted, also includes a nice new gripframe, doesn't look like much but a regular black plain ol' gripframe.. yeppers, plain as can be, but all the hardware in it... Whew. The single 9volt battery that runs it is located in a box at the bottom of the gripframe, kinda a feature I didn't like that much, but it comes with a snazzy easy to find On/Off switch which was thumbs up! :) Dont want to walk onto the field for your last finals match that decides who takes first, then your gun doesnt fire later to realize you didnt replace your battery in such a long time, or didnt have an on/off to save battery power I suppoes.. but I dont think it uses that much power to stay idle... but I'd turn it off, two other teammates on our team shot the sandridge too, when one guy was setting it down, he bumped the gun softly on the stand up table thing out there at the chrono, and his finger was still on the trigger, it fired. :) Really funny to see his expression after.
I didnt get the jip on the electronic MAC valve or anything like that, but there are a few wires from the gripframe leading through the air receivers acuating rod color (where it used to go) into the MAC Valve, so thats understandable how that works.
Shooting paint through it really showed why the kit cost like 700 bucks, it fired unbeleiveably fast, equal to todays electros such as Bushmasters, Shockers, and even Angels. There's only 1 mode of fire, semi, which is really nice. I dont think putting selectable ROFs would be that great on a cocker, or tourney legal for that matter.
You can only shoot paint as fast as it can feeds, yep, doesnt mean it shoots 30 BPS, but it has an Anti-Chop Eye that was installed too, you can rip it and not worry about chopping a ball, one of the most pissed off moments in playing paint. Along with having an Eye, you can't rip on the trigger without paint being in it, it shoots real slow if there is no paint in the gun for the eye to see, I guess you can somehow turn the eye off? But if you want to learn how to rip the trigger with a lot of practice, I suggest you bring extra bags of paint. If you cant disable/turn the eye off. Or have past experiences with electros OR have a really fast trigger finger :)
With this guys barrel, I forgot what he had on it.. maybe it was an ironmen boomstick(cant remember?) with 32 degrees team color paint (Philly paint)Dunno, but the accuracy remains the same as it would on a normal cocker, its not like an Angels accuracy compared to a Cockers accuracy with this Kit installed on it. Damn sweet accuracy is still there even though your cocker fires tons faster which is the reason I'd get the kit over buying an Angel. :)
its pretty phat all I can say
Well, money wise.. I think its a 700 dollar kit, with that much, you could buy a bushmaster and a decent air system and get about the same thing. So its kind of expensive.
Its sort of the like Hyperframe/Booyah Gripframe add on for the Spyders and the such, blowback semi autos... but this is really worked out and tested well, plus it has more stuff making it more expensive then just an add on gripframe. :-\ I wont be buying it anytime soon, but if that guy comes to play some rec ball sometime... :)
As I said before, the 9volt battery, where its housed is kind of damn ugly, its just a box at the bottom of the gripframe, but atleast its not jumbled into the gripframe itself where you could snap wires off and break something.
When the 9volt battery starts to run out of life, you'll notice slower shooting, and other symptons as the guy up at the tourney was telling us and actually showed us (his battery was running out of energy), so its like a Bushmaster or something like that, good thing to look out for.. so dont be thinking you'll squeeze every bit of ounce of energy out of that 9volt before the gun stops working.
Along with 9volts, I count 3 of them that need to be changed every once in a while.... 2 in the 12volt Revy (Yes you'll need a 12volt with this, im sure you already got one) and the one in the gun if the guy was right or made a mistake about saying it runs off of 1 9volt... but seriously, damn 9volt batteries.
Shooting all this paint, you should atleast hit something unless you got the spray and pray attitude on the field, so I suggest a decent barrel like a JJ Ceramic.. no stock barrels unless you got like a 6 pod pack to keep reloading lol.
I wouldn't actually call it a Cocker really, Im rating the kit on a Stock 2K Cocker the guy had, which makes it I guess a Sandridge F5 Cocker... though, I'd love to see this thing on a Custom Cocker like a Shocktech, or a Freeflow. Or a cocker that was put together by Sanrdige using Spanky body kits, and other parts.. That would be sweet.
Word of advice, even though its cool as anything, dont buy it without trying it out or atleast researching on it more... You might not even like it in real life. I did, but thats just something different than shooting Angels, Bushmaster, and what not. So overall, its something different than upgrading from a customized cocker to an Angel... good thing to look into if you are at that stage.
the guy who got this kit on his 2k Cocker, his pneuamtic reg was an ANS Jackhammer 2, now Im not sure Sandridge put on some pnuematics, or they offer to put on aftermarket pnuematics for extra price... so thats something to look into. With the MAC Valve configuration I couldnt really tell what 3way and RAM he had... Im sure he still had to have a 3way and RAM, just didnt see it... hopefully. Anyway, it shot like a dream still.
This guy also had an ANS Cocker, so thats another reason he might have had ANS Pnuematics on it, it was cool to see how fast his ANS GenX Reg's guage bounced so fast everytime he ripped it, just something to laugh about on a gun thats all mechanical with an electronic kit on it, I guess, not that funny.. but Cocker jokes...
Okay, sorry for the long post.. but I give this baby a 10/10 based on my opinion